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A Krag Schuetzen?
Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:42pm
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Yep, I know it isn't a single shot.  It is an Model 1892 Krag-Jorgensen infantry rifle, caliber .30-40 Krag, but with a Schuetzen stock and a vernier (maybe?) tang sight.

Is it a Schuetzen?  Or is this just a hunting rifle with a very full curve buttplate?  Does anyone recognize the tang sight?

SN for the receiver dates from July or August 1895.  What a lot of work! 
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:49pm
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Here's a photo with the bolt open.

These photos and others were posted on the Krag Collectors forum.  Nobody seems to know anything about it.  I'm here thinking someone might know more.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:56pm
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The tang sight is a Farrow...
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:18pm
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Thats a beautiful rifle. If I came across that Id buy it in an instant.
I always wanted a nice sporterized Krag
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:21pm
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Early Fred Adolph target/sporter model?

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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:26pm
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I am with rifleman. I would have bought it in an instant too !
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:29pm
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1912 Olympic free rifle?....look on 1912 Olympic site..one fellow holding Martini rifle with what looks to be a tang site.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 6:58pm
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The barrel and front sight appear to be original military issue.  The barrel sight is an ordinary Model 1892.  As is the front sight.  The Model 1892 infantry rifle came with a long "under the barrel" cleaning rod, maybe the rod under the barrel in this photo.  The thimble to hold the rod was added, perhaps copying those on Officer's Model Trapdoors.
  
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Re: A Krag Schuetzen?
Reply #8 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 7:24pm
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GT wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:56pm:
The tang sight is a Farrow...


Oh my!  Can I imagine a Farrow connection?   

Farrow was a modernist.  As soon as smokeless powder and jacketed bullets appeared, he largely abandoned black powder and lead bullets.  Single shots were obsolete, relics of the past.

Farrow shot Krags in competition at Sea Girt.  He was an officer in the District of Columbia National Guard, shot on their team and competed as an NRA member in non-military matches, including the 800-900 & 1,000 yard matches.   

In the military competitions, he shot an "issue" Krag rifle, but almost certainly one he had worked over.  But there were "any rifle" matches also, and Farrow's name is on the score sheets.  In the 1908 "any rifle" matches, Farrow used a Winchester High Wall in .30-40 Krag.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:28pm
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Farrow-related or otherwise, that's a terrific rifle that would make me giddy with delight. I'd trade most anything I've ever owned for one like that. Thanks for the photos.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 9:54pm
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Mercy, I wish it were mine!

Just goes to show what happens with a little ingenuity and a sense of aesthetics.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 7:36am
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It’s really nice.

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Re: A Krag Schuetzen?
Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 9:39am
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Dick,
That is one of the prettiest Krag's I can remember seeing and I'm a bit of a Krag snob.  I have a stripped action that now has a plan, thanks for sharing.

I attached a couple pics of an original Farrow sight, except for the eyepiece embellishment and the font on it is one of the comparing factors.  The PU sights have a little different font.   Compare if you can.   
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Re: A Krag Schuetzen?
Reply #13 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 11:50am
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That is one drop dead beautiful Krag. Interestingly, the front sight blade will fit a trapdoor (especially good to fix those high shooting battle sights at 100), a Krag, and an 03 Springfield. So will the butt plate screws (not this one, of course). All told me by a former armorer.
  
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Re: A Krag Schuetzen?
Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 12:22pm
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Gorgeous rifle and a design I never caught up to. So many interesting elements and features. Thanks for offering this up. 

BTW the stock maker sure took a healthy bite out of the stock for bolt landing 

Rick
  
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