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Reply #15 - Jun 1st, 2025 at 9:49am
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Pat,
The tang has a square section to it, but if the casting like Johnny is building gets a recess machined in the end like the originals, the wood is inlet into it and it serves as an anti-rotation means.   
Here's pics of a recent Ballard I built and shooting matches with in 44-2.5" straight.
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Reply #16 - Jun 1st, 2025 at 10:13am
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I had to go look and see if Rodney's casting came with the recess on the south end for the stock or not... I couldn't remember.  Most do I think, the Ballards I've built from scratch needed some creative setup and machining to cut the oval recess with tapered sides.  Here's a pic of one setup in process.
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Reply #17 - Jun 1st, 2025 at 1:49pm
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Greg, thanks for the refresher photos and Vall for his verbal explanation. I may never own a lot of the rifles discussed on the forum, but learning from experts willing to tutor a fellow is a good thing. All that post threads and share info and knowledge here are a blessing to the whole shooting community.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 1st, 2025 at 8:53pm
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The first picture GT supplied the side walls of the receiver have a bit more thickness where my receiver has about the same amount as the second picture and has the slight bevel to them.  Without going to the shop and looking I can't remember the threat tap I used for the tang. I know it is a little larger than the first picture. Closer to the second one. The sides of my receiver were ground parallel (I checked to be sure) so I used a 6 inch angle block and securely clamped it and turned a stub that slip fit the area of the tang threads. The other end I held in the mill. This got me close then I indicated for location and bored for the tap size. Did the front for the barrel threads the same way. Worked out good. Got to make some screws to hold the block together and hammer location. Then a through hole for the lever and a screw. Thinking of a 32-20 for a caliber. Can you use a .308 bore barrel for 32-20? If not what would you recommend? Thanks for the discussion and pictures.


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Reply #19 - Jun 2nd, 2025 at 10:15am
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There have been a lot of guys who used .308" barrels for the .32-20 cartridge to be able to have a wider selection of bullets in .30 caliber. I've seen old .32-20's relined with a .308" liner also using the standard chamber for .32-20. Friend has one he did on a Lo Wall and it shoots OK.
  

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Reply #20 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:20am
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In my experience, on original receivers the tang is prevented from rotation by the rear plug screw for the tang sight (or the screw for the tang sight base, if one is installed).  It goes through the receiver and impinges on the tang threads, acting like a set screw.

Of course a casting set doesn't necessarily need the holes if a scope is contemplated as a sighting system.  Even if a tang sight is mounted, any size base can be accommodated on the receiver casting, located at the builder's option.  But the stock bolt hole does act as a positive stop as well.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 11:54am
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 9:20am:
In my experience, on original receivers the tang is prevented from rotation by the rear plug screw for the tang sight (or the screw for the tang sight base, if one is installed).  It goes through the receiver and impinges on the tang threads, acting like a set screw.

Of course a casting set doesn't necessarily need the holes if a scope is contemplated as a sighting system.  Even if a tang sight is mounted, any size base can be accommodated on the receiver casting, located at the builder's option.  But the stock bolt hole does act as a positive stop as well.


If your tang sight screws are long enough to contact those threads then they're too long and might not be tightening on the sight base! And not all Ballard rifles had tang sights, and plug screws would be too short to contact threads.
Original tangs were staked around the threads at the rear of the receiver in one or two places.
  

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