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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 3094 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Off hand support Reply #15 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	Frank, You could use the front rest but stand on one foot and hop up and down to give us 75 yr olds a fighting chance. Jack

	ASSRA # 11318 I haven’t lost all my marbles yet but there is definitely a hole in the bag somewhere.
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Bruce P Full Member Offline Posts: 128 Location: Oakdale Joined: Oct 31^st, 2006	Re: Off hand support Reply #16 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	Guys, I'll finish this with one last comment, essentially a series of questions, and then move on. First of all, how many of you have experience running matches today? Are you aware of the potential liabilities to a club if an accident occurs? Are you, as a match director personally responsible for an accident? Does your club have insurance for such accidents? Do you have such insurance? There are sound reasons why we shoot by published rules and adhere to them. This is serious legal stuff to consider. It's great to be in a position to make accomodations to try and make everyone happy. But there can be consequencences too. Just sayin...


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burntwater Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 462 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: Off hand support Reply #17 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	This is a good start, shooters offering advice and the ramifications of rule changes . I was hesitant to comment on the legal side of this but also compelled to do so even as a follower with no competitive range time in this sport Rick


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Joe_S Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1036 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2004	Re: Off hand support Reply #18 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	How about this: 1) draft specific rules as to what the rest should consist of, making it something that will not fall or slip, like the one shown in the photo above. THE SPONSORING ORGANIZATION SHOULD PROVIDE THEM TO KEEP EVERYTHING EQUAL AND SAFE. 2) separate awards, (will need a few extra medals but it avoids a lot of controversy) 3) No age requirement . Just my two cents fwiw. Joe S


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patriot Participating Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Mar 29^th, 2015	Re: Off hand support Reply #19 - May 27^th, 2025 at 11:05pm	Print Post
	The more competitors shooting standing the better, but keep the offhand and supported scores separate. I'm 71 and practice offhand nearly every day with iron sights. I sometimes zero the rifle shooting off a rest and it would be a significant unfair advantage.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11711 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Off hand support Reply #20 - May 28^th, 2025 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	When I get to old to shoot offhand I plan to shoot BR matches. Done in half the time or less which makes more time for chasing girls.

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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Drydock Newbie Offline Posts: 5 Joined: May 20^th, 2025	Re: Off hand support Reply #21 - May 28^th, 2025 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	Just have them sit down and use bench cross sticks. Score them separate.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11711 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Off hand support Reply #22 - May 28^th, 2025 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	In Bavaria when shooters get to old they hang a rope in the shooting window. The old wobbly decrepit shooter lays his barrel on it to shoot. The rope hangs from the upper corners of the window. Don't think an old shooter will trade his expensive rifle rest for bench cross sticks.

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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dcraven Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Joined: May 2^nd, 2024	Re: Off hand support Reply #23 - May 29^th, 2025 at 2:09pm	Print Post
	Definitely should be a separate class.


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KaiserKong Junior Member Offline Posts: 87 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2022	Re: Off hand support Reply #24 - May 29^th, 2025 at 10:31pm	Print Post
	In Germany today shooting with a rest is popular amongst elder shooters... the term they use for this class is 'Aufgelegt schießen', which roughly translates as 'laid up shooting'. A quick google search showed this club for example: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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Purdey Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Location: Western WI Joined: Jan 18^th, 2022	Re: Off hand support Reply #25 - May 29^th, 2025 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Doesn't matter if your sport is football, basketball, golf or shooting, there comes a time for all of us when we can no longer perform at the level we want. If you are going to go with any kind of rest it is no longer off hand shooting and must be in a separate class. If someone can no longer shoot off hand there are still plenty of bench rest matches and I, like others, would be concerned about safety and liability. This sounds like a noble effort to help an old friend keep shooting but it could be opening up a can of worms that will eventually come back to bite you. Do worms have teeth?


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dcraven Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Joined: May 2^nd, 2024	Re: Off hand support Reply #26 - May 30^th, 2025 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	It's interesting, at the Quigley there's always some old timers who in the off hand can barely hold the rifle in the off hand. You'd think they'd do poorly in the match but it turns out most score quite well. They drop about half of the points in off hand but crush it shooting off the sticks.


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