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May 15th, 2025 at 11:49am
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Knowing I own single shots, a young guy(late 30s?) at the gun club told me he was recently able to shoot a Winchester single shot a friend owned, and how cool he thought it was. Next, he mentioned he would sure like to own one and had been searching the web for one to buy. I told him I had a 22RF Lowwall  for sale and would bring it to pistol league this week. I showed it to him last night, his eyes lit up, and his only question was price. Once that was out of the way, he started discussing what type of open sights he would install. 
He doesn't own it yet and he's already hooked.
It's going to the right person.
  
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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2025 at 12:10pm
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It's so much fun when that happens.  Grin
I have a few that have reacted very similar...
  

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Reply #2 - May 15th, 2025 at 2:26pm
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I think most of us were there at some point, and a good feeling.
  

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Reply #3 - May 20th, 2025 at 4:53pm
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I still recall my first single shot rifle purchase! A well worn Ballard #2 in .38 Long that I paid $295 for. That was around 1980 and soon after buying it I realized there were a whole bunch of Ballard models that were much neater than my lowly #2. I also realized they were many times more money too! But once I got a real scheutzen model in the form of a Union Hill Ballard I was even happier!
  

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Reply #4 - May 20th, 2025 at 6:07pm
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I was eight or maybe nine, at my Grandma's in Missoula, Mt. I had been there many times but this time I happened to reach way back under her couch and felt something very suspiciously like a rifle barrel. I pulled it close enough to see it had an octagon barrel. Being raised not to mess with other people's guns and not even Dad's guns without permission, I ran to Grandma and told her there was a rifle under her couch. "Can I look at it?" "Go ahead," she said, "check to see it's not loaded." I hauled it out and it was so cool. I remember very heavy. I looked at the end of the barrel, pretty sure it was a .22 but it looked like a buffalo gun. Somebody named "J. Marlin" was on the side of the action. Never heard of him. I pulled the lever down, watched how the extractor slid back as the block flopped down. How cool! 
"That was your grandpa's .22" Grandma said, "I'm going to give it to you when you can hold it up".
Well, before that happened my uncle stooped by Grandma's and got his Dad's .22. Grandma gave me an old shotgun instead.
The memory and excitement of finding that old rifle stuck with me and years later I found myself working in Cody making those very rifles. So I made myself one, the "Otis Hayes memorial Ballard". My wife has confiscated it for herself, and I am OK with that, just one condition; at some point it goes under the couch and the first grandchild who finds it, gets it.
  

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Reply #5 - May 20th, 2025 at 6:37pm
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Kootne thanks for sharing.
  
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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2025 at 8:52am
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Speaking about guns hidden in places. My daughter was about 8 years old and had a friend who wanted to do a sleep over. He mother brought her on a Fri afternoon late. I invited them in and when she saw my Sharps above the fireplace and my built in gun cabinet full of stuff she said her daughter couldn't stay. She wouldn't allow her to be in a house with guns even locked up ones. I said I would remove them but to no avail. She was adament. The child was heartbroken so my daughter went home with them. Little off topic but thought it was interesting.


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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:19am
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When I was about age 6, my family with 3 boys was invited to dinner at one of the wealthy clients of the bank my dad worked at. Imagine being dragged to have a formal dinner featuring eggplant at that age with some strange old folks in their 80s. My dad was expected to humor his clients and my brothers and I had to put up with “such cute kids” and strange looking food choices. This time it was different. The host took us out to show us his medium sized brass cannon that he used to start the local boat races and then up into his man cave where I got to fondle a trapdoor Springfield and a Stevens 35 pistol. It was many years later that I finally acquired my own examples of those guns and a small 50 cal bronze cannon. 

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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:03am
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On the subject of guns and kids, I got my initial exposure to collectible old firearms from my dad's brother in law. My aunt and uncle lived in an old house in Wenatchee, Wa. and beside the house were six bungalow apartments. They rented five of them, and kept the one closest to their house un-rented. When I was very young we visited them and my uncle took my dad and my older brother and I to see his gun collection in the apartment. I remember vividly him opening the front door and seeing nothing but long guns in racks in every room of the place! Some rooms had old file cabinets with shelves full of revolvers and single shot handguns! There were open walkways through the house and guns on both sides as we walked through looking at more guns than most gun stores or museums had!
When I was 15 my uncle died and his estranged son showed up and emptied the apartment of every firearm in there! Took them all back to Seattle and likely sold them for pennies on the dollar. That was 1965 and when my aunt passed in 1996 at age 95 we went up to help clean out her house. I found log books his son had left, and they were hand written entries for every gun he had, along with descriptions and serial numbers. I still have them, and look through them occasionally. Lots of old 1700's and 1800's muzzleloader rifles and pistols, plus early cartridge single shot rifles. A huge number of Colt and S&W revolvers that included several Walker Colt pistols, some Pattersons, Dragoons, numerous 1873's and various Lightning and Thunderer pistols. It still amazes me that a clerk for the Union Pacific acquired so many fine firearms. He did also work part time at a pawn shop, and guessing much of his collection came that route.
  

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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:06am
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as boys, two friends moved with the family to one of our Nevada mining camps that was opening back after the war. In the rented house the brothers found an opening in the wall with a door on it- like a nook that once housed ironing boards. In it were two- a twelve gauge and a m1873 Winchester. The older brother claimed the rickety double barrel because he could get ammunition and my friend Frank was left with the old rifle that at the time went without available ammo. As he grew older, ammo came to be available and when he shot it, it was a damn fine thing indeed. The older brother had long trashed the ol' scatter gun. Frank still has his 'second choice' jewel. I have shot it and tried to buy the thing- no dice. Going off to a great granddaughter.
  
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Reply #10 - May 23rd, 2025 at 11:00am
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When Chris(the young guy at the start of this post) got to pistol league Wednesday evening he asked, "you didn't happen to bring that rifle, did you?" 
I had. He handed over some money, I grabbed the lowwall from my car. His face positively lit up knowing it was now his. 
He then said he had something in his truck for me. 
It seems 20+ years ago he found a Civil War era cannonball that has been authenticated multiple times. Knowing I'm a CW reenactor on a cannon crew, he gave it to me. 
Proving truth is stranger than fiction, it's a 6lb ball, and I shoot a 6lb cannon. 
Cue up the Twilight Zone music. 
We both went home grinning like we had won the lottery.
  
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Reply #11 - May 23rd, 2025 at 11:52am
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cellargun wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 11:00am:
When Chris(the young guy at the start of this post) got to pistol league Wednesday evening he asked, "you didn't happen to bring that rifle, did you?" 
I had. He handed over some money, I grabbed the lowwall from my car. His face positively lit up knowing it was now his. 
He then said he had something in his truck for me. 
It seems 20+ years ago he found a Civil War era cannonball that has been authenticated multiple times. Knowing I'm a CW reenactor on a cannon crew, he gave it to me. 
Proving truth is stranger than fiction, it's a 6lb ball, and I shoot a 6lb cannon. 
Cue up the Twilight Zone music. 
We both went home grinning like we had won the lottery.


Great ending to this story! He sounds like a great young man.
  

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Reply #12 - May 23rd, 2025 at 1:33pm
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marlinguy wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 11:52am:
cellargun wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 11:00am:
When Chris(the young guy at the start of this post) got to pistol league Wednesday evening he asked, "you didn't happen to bring that rifle, did you?" 
I had. He handed over some money, I grabbed the lowwall from my car. His face positively lit up knowing it was now his. 
He then said he had something in his truck for me. 
It seems 20+ years ago he found a Civil War era cannonball that has been authenticated multiple times. Knowing I'm a CW reenactor on a cannon crew, he gave it to me. 
Proving truth is stranger than fiction, it's a 6lb ball, and I shoot a 6lb cannon. 
Cue up the Twilight Zone music. 
We both went home grinning like we had won the lottery.


Great ending to this story! He sounds like a great young man.

Thanks, he is. Chris proves there will be a future for firearms, and specifically, the old ones we all cherish.  

For a little back story, Chris discovered the cannon ball north of Lawrence, Kansas, where there were several battles that preceded the Civil War. Lecompton, Kansas is about 10 miles away, where there was also a battle or two. 
While there is no documented provenance, the circumstantial evidence is strong.
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Reply #13 - May 30th, 2025 at 11:40am
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Did he decide on the type of open sights?  I've got a heavy barrel '37 Ranger 22lr that was my grandfather's with Lyman sights.  It's accurate out to 180 yards before you run out of elevation.   
cellargun wrote on May 15th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Knowing I own single shots, a young guy(late 30s?) at the gun club told me he was recently able to shoot a Winchester single shot a friend owned, and how cool he thought it was. Next, he mentioned he would sure like to own one and had been searching the web for one to buy. I told him I had a 22RF Lowwall  for sale and would bring it to pistol league this week. I showed it to him last night, his eyes lit up, and his only question was price. Once that was out of the way, he started discussing what type of open sights he would install. 
He doesn't own it yet and he's already hooked.
It's going to the right person. 

  
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Reply #14 - May 31st, 2025 at 12:39pm
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dcraven wrote on May 30th, 2025 at 11:40am:
Did he decide on the type of open sights?  I've got a heavy barrel '37 Ranger 22lr that was my grandfather's with Lyman sights.  It's accurate out to 180 yards before you run out of elevation.  
cellargun wrote on May 15th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Knowing I own single shots, a young guy(late 30s?) at the gun club told me he was recently able to shoot a Winchester single shot a friend owned, and how cool he thought it was. Next, he mentioned he would sure like to own one and had been searching the web for one to buy. I told him I had a 22RF Lowwall  for sale and would bring it to pistol league this week. I showed it to him last night, his eyes lit up, and his only question was price. Once that was out of the way, he started discussing what type of open sights he would install. 
He doesn't own it yet and he's already hooked.
It's going to the right person. 


He had been on the MVA website and liked the look or their products. I told him I have two of their tangs sights and that they create precision firearms jewelry. I gave hi info for Lee Shaver's sights and his website info. Chris had to work late Wednesday, couldn't come to pistol league, so I don't know if he has made a decision or placed an order yet.
  
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