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looking forward to being at the show this weekend. i'll have 4 tables of these old goodies we love . stop by and say howdy and visit for a while.   tony<><
  
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Reply #1 - May 12th, 2025 at 12:33pm
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I love this show but alas, it's not on my list this year.I always find something interesting there. Maybe next?
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We'll have the same two tables again. A few single shots I'm selling, plus a fair amount of collectible very old ammo in boxes.
  

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I’m headed out Wednesday!  A good show for anyone wondering and worth the time getting to it.
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I am envious. Middle of springs planting but forecast is for an inch of rain and highs in the 40s and low 50s. If it works out Ill throw my son in a Corvette and break some speed limits and make it for Saturday. Tony get a hotel room with a comfortable couch. 

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I will be there Friday with a friend or few...

I look forward to chatting with friends and telling some lies. Ok.... tall tails.  Cool
  
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Reply #6 - May 12th, 2025 at 8:36pm
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It's a long way there from Georgia so guess I will be there in spirit. You guys let me know what was there. Tale lots of pictures.



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Michael,
We NEVER tell lies, we stretch truths quite often to conform to our ideals Wink
An older acquaintence of mine everytime he sees me says, "Tell me a story, make it a good one, embellish it a little bit, make it worth repeating even if the truth is stretched".
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If it's anything like the previous 3 decades there it will be filled with lots of fun, and a good share of teasing each other. 
We're leaving Wed. before 6:00AM and stay Wed. night in Wyoming, then hit the show Thu. at setup time hopefully. Weather sounds great and I can leave my chains home this trip again!
  

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Not going to make the Greeley show for the first time in many years. Mobility getting to me.
Will miss seeing you guys and shooting the bull, in particular, Bob's new rifles and Greg's projects.
Have a good time and don't spend more than intended at Tony's table. Wink
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Chuckster wrote on May 13th, 2025 at 2:41pm:
Not going to make the Greeley show for the first time in many years. Mobility getting to me.
Will miss seeing you guys and shooting the bull, in particular, Bob's new rifles and Greg's projects.
Have a good time and don't spend more than intended at Tony's table. Wink
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Sorry to hear this Chuck, I was looking forward to talking again.  Take care my friend!
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jordan,  the couch is taken but i have a couple of hangers in the closet not spoken for. chuck gonna miss not seeing you. doing final pack and ready to head out early tomorrow morning.  gonna be another great show.   tony<><
  
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Reply #12 - May 14th, 2025 at 11:46am
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Think of the rumors that would spread at the show if folks found out you were sharing a room with a guy that came out of the closet…
  
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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2025 at 12:04pm
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Will be at Greeley.  Trying my hand at exhibiting.  'Tools of the Buffalo Hunters".  My rifle builder and best buddy, Shon Eychaner, will be on hand to exhibit adjacent to my table.  He will have two Freund Bros. style Sharps with canning block and double kicking extractors as well as other beautiful rifles.  This is our first foray into exhibiting so if you have any suggestions please let us know.
  

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jordan,  i recend my offer, i cannot have any rumors involving me
  
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It occurs to me there might be some who didnt realize that was joke.
  
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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2025 at 3:06pm
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Yesterday I was visiting with Tom Rowe and Tony and the next table was Bob Warren and it was really something to see his marvelous creations up close and personal. Then along comes GT (Greg) and his son and I finally got to meet them.
  
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Reply #17 - May 19th, 2025 at 4:38pm
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A few posts with pictures of tables.

I didn't get pictures like I should have this year, I'll do better next year!  

I didn't get guys like Vall Miller and Steve Bertram, who were both there.  Didn't take any of Greg or his son Nate either.  I also should get pictures of members that stop by.  Rodney Storie nor Bruce Nelson made it this year.

These are all of my table.
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Last year there were comments on the pictures of Tony's display, and that we don't see this number of Single shots in one place.  

Well, here you go again.
Bob

The third Ballard down, in the last picture, is one I sure would like to own!
  

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Reply #19 - May 19th, 2025 at 5:01pm
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This first picture is Tony figuring up how much money he had made by 8AM Friday Morning. Grin

If you ever wondered what Tony's backside looked like, here ya go! Wink

If you really ever cared to know what Tom Rowe looks like here you go.  He's the non-astute looking guy, behind the table, looking at the astute gentleman studying the book. Cheesy

Now being more serious! 
This last picture is of Shon Eychaner, he's from the KC area.  This was his first year at the show but Tony has know him a few years, I just met him last year in Kansas City.  He's a good guy, and very talented, he's trying to build a business so he can retire from his current work.  Like myself, he has built some guns from scratch.  Give him a call if you need something done.  Sounds like he is a couple months behind right now.
Bob

I just noticed the spelling of Shon’s last name was incorrect, now corrected.  Seems spellcheck does not like his name spelling!
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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2025 at 9:13pm
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Absolutely unreal is all I can say. Can't believe the amount of history in guns just laying about. All makes and models. Eye candy abounds. Thanks for the pictures.



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Reply #21 - May 19th, 2025 at 10:29pm
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I swear, I'll get there next year if I have to crawl!

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Lotts a drool on my I pad screen, one rifle has me stumped. What is the rifle below the 4 Martinis in the rack 2 Peabodys 1 Spencer and ???
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That's a Hug rolling block.  Pretty rare bird, but covered in one of DeHass' addendum books.   
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Reply #24 - May 20th, 2025 at 6:31am
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Forgot to mention that rack full of Hepburn's. Be still my beating heart lol..
I wonder if that bottom gun could be purchased?




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I appreciate you sharing pictures with us, Bob. I sure hated to miss it but plan on being there next year.
  
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Reply #26 - May 20th, 2025 at 11:20am
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Our group of three had two tables, and it was one of the most enjoyable trips to Colorado CGCA shows we've had in 30 years! Got to meet some new faces from ASSRA, plus visit with a lot of old faces I always look forward to seeing again.
Came home with another Ballard, an original 32" Wm. Malcolm scope, plus a couple other guns, and a few trinkets. 
Missed some people like Chuckster, and Rodney that couldn't make the show! 
Hit a lot of road construction on I-84 and I-80 both ways that made for two long days of driving each way, but still well worth it to us!
  

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One more picture.
  

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Bob, don't scare them off;-) That guy was just rounding people up for the display awards presentations Sunday afternoon. Tom Rowe didn't have just his beautiful books. I saw him showing off a British single shot designated for 2000 yard targets. Ron Peterson also had a 2000 yard rifle built on a Westley Richards monkey tail action of all things that had 8 flip up sights along the barrel for 100 to 800 and then was marked along the rib for 900 to 2000 at 100 yard intervals. He also had a first model factory high wall schuetzen and a whole bunch of engraved Stevens and Ballard schuetzens and for those with a "smaller" collection, 12 or 15 or so minty boys' rifles from a collection (at least some from Grant's Boys' Single Shot Rifles). The latest I hear is that the show will be at the same place and about the same time next year. Set up is Thursday, Friday is dealer to dealer and for those collectors who purchase a 3-day ticket and the public is let in Saturday and Sunday. Y'all come.
  
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I’ll let Tom tell the whole story on the 2000 yard gun.  But will say he saw it years ago, turned it down and regretted it since.  Then it showed up at this show and he bought it.   

He won’t be admiring it for awhile though, but I will, since I have it!  It has a couple small issues I’m fixing for him.

Next years show is Saturday and Sunday, May 16 and 17, at the same place for the public.  Thursday and Friday, prior to that, is for venders and collectors.
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Couple of my finds at the CGCA show.
A unique Ballard with 34" half octagon barrel in .45-70 cartridge. I'll be taking the .45-70 barrel off soon and switch it out for a 30" #4 weight full round Schoyen barrel in .40-50SS. Then find a forearm hopefully of the same honey colored English walnut. Receiver already has a hole for a tapered takedown pin like my spare Schoyen barrel has.

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Full length Wm. Malcolm 34" scope with correct windage front mount, and elevation rear mount.

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Found a sight set for my Remington 37 target rifle too!

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Reply #31 - May 20th, 2025 at 11:08pm
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Here is that Gibbs with the scope....

Bob, I really enjoyed seeing your table and the rifles you built. I am in aw. 
We didn't have a lot of time Friday to talk about the rare Hepburn action and its variations but it was something I would like to learn more about. I did not know about it. Is it in Tom's HEPBURN Book? Fun Stuff!!!
  
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I miss going to this show may be next year ken
  
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The finds and purchases are amazing. I would encourage anyone who found a new treasure to picture it here so folks ( the ones who didn't go) can see them. What power is the scope? Have never seen one that long before.


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jhm wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:37am:
The finds and purchases are amazing. I would encourage anyone who found a new treasure to picture it here so folks ( the ones who didn't go) can see them. What power is the scope? Have never seen one that long before.


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I haven't figured out what power the scope is yet? They were made mostly between 2x and 10x, and Wm. Malcolm began building scopes in 1855, and died in 1900. The company was owned by four different others until it closed in 1940. 
Malcolm scopes like the one I bought were used on Sharps rifles during the Civil War by the Berdan Sharpshooter unit. I own two short Malcolm scopes that weren't too painful to buy, but long Malcolms generally go more than a good single shot rifle so pretty expensive. This one was a real bargain at less than 1/3rd of any I've ever seen for sale. Nearly broke my arm grabbing for my wallet.
  

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CW wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 11:08pm:
Here is that Gibbs with the scope....

Bob, I really enjoyed seeing your table and the rifles you built. I am in aw. 
We didn't have a lot of time Friday to talk about the rare Hepburn action and its variations but it was something I would like to learn more about. I did not know about it. Is it in Tom's HEPBURN Book? Fun Stuff!!!


Yes, that is the Gibbs 2000 yard gun, now in Tom’s collection, and I’m now doing some work on.  This is a big gun that the picture does not really show.

The Hepburn Walker Patent guns are in Tom’s book.  The one on my table (the one I copied) and the other, are both shown at the end of the Walker section.
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What kind of scope and mounts are on the Gibbs?  The mounts look like Malcolm Type A side mounts but not quite is that a Malcolm scope or maybe a Davidson?
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Bnelson wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 11:43am:
What kind of scope and mounts are on the Gibbs?  The mounts look like Malcolm Type A side mounts but not quite is that a Malcolm scope or maybe a Davidson?
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Bruce, I was hoping Tom would jump in on this.   

The scope is stamped “Husband & Clarke, Bristol”.  From what I have seen they made microscopes, telescopes and other precision tools in the mid 1800’s.

Here’s a picture of the rear mount.
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I don't have the full history yet of the Gibbs/Metford, except that there were two rifles made for 2000-yard target shooting. The other one was in the late Bill Curtis' collection and is now in the British NRA Museum at Bisley, in England. The rifle weighs about 15 pounds, is .50 caliber, and not fitted with iron sights. It has a false muzzle. The load was reported to me as a bullet of 750 gr. and 150 gr. of black powder. I first saw it at a Great Western Show, probably 30 or more years ago. For some reason, unknown to me, the rifle was found to be impractical. More to come, as I find info.
  
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Reply #39 - May 22nd, 2025 at 12:40am
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Mr Rowe,

Just a note to thank you for the book that is Hepburn. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed a book as much. So much information and the pictures are beyond description.  Thank you again.


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TRowe wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:03pm:
I don't have the full history yet of the Gibbs/Metford, except that there were two rifles made for 2000-yard target shooting. The other one was in the late Bill Curtis' collection and is now in the British NRA Museum at Bisley, in England. The rifle weighs about 15 pounds, is .50 caliber, and not fitted with iron sights. It has a false muzzle. The load was reported to me as a bullet of 750 gr. and 150 gr. of black powder. I first saw it at a Great Western Show, probably 30 or more years ago. For some reason, unknown to me, the rifle was found to be impractical. More to come, as I find info.


Since I have Tom's gun, and with Tom's permission, here are a few pictures of it.
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Bob, Is the trigger a single set trigger? It kind of has that appearance. Of course if it is a set trigger that would be somewhat of a change from the typical configuration of 1000 yd match rifles as you know. Anyway just a question, thanks.
  
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It looks like it cleaned up well. Did that take a lot of time?
  
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What is the function of the extra set of holes on the rear scope base plate?  Does it elevate the scope a standard amount (like a "Known Ranger") for adjustments at extra long distances?
  
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It seems like there’s much more really on the other side of the country. I’m jealous!
  
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More neat stuff 
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Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show)
Reply #46 - May 23rd, 2025 at 6:52pm
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CW wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 10:33am:
It looks like it cleaned up well. Did that take a lot of time?



I’m not sure of what you are asking?
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Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show)
Reply #47 - May 23rd, 2025 at 6:54pm
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LRF wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 7:15am:
Bob, Is the trigger a single set trigger? It kind of has that appearance. Of course if it is a set trigger that would be somewhat of a change from the typical configuration of 1000 yd match rifles as you know. Anyway just a question, thanks.



Lynn, it is not a set trigger.  Had to check that out today when I got back in my shop.  The trigger pull seems nice though and not overly heavy.
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Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show)
Reply #48 - May 23rd, 2025 at 7:00pm
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 1:15pm:
What is the function of the extra set of holes on the rear scope base plate?  Does it elevate the scope a standard amount (like a "Known Ranger") for adjustments at extra long distances?



Yes they would elevate the scope but, I don’t know about a standard amount.  If you take a look at the pictures of this mount, in my screw repair post, in the gunsmith section, you can see elevation numbers on the adjustable rod.
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