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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16801 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #30 - May 20^th, 2025 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	Couple of my finds at the CGCA show. A unique Ballard with 34" half octagon barrel in .45-70 cartridge. I'll be taking the .45-70 barrel off soon and switch it out for a 30" #4 weight full round Schoyen barrel in .40-50SS. Then find a forearm hopefully of the same honey colored English walnut. Receiver already has a hole for a tapered takedown pin like my spare Schoyen barrel has. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Full length Wm. Malcolm 34" scope with correct windage front mount, and elevation rear mount. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Found a sight set for my Remington 37 target rifle too! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 515 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #31 - May 20^th, 2025 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	Here is that Gibbs with the scope.... Bob, I really enjoyed seeing your table and the rifles you built. I am in aw. We didn't have a lot of time Friday to talk about the rare Hepburn action and its variations but it was something I would like to learn more about. I did not know about it. Is it in Tom's HEPBURN Book? Fun Stuff!!!


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KensBullard Participating Member Offline Posts: 29 Location: Woodland Wa Joined: Dec 17^th, 2024	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #32 - May 21^st, 2025 at 12:26am	Print Post
	I miss going to this show may be next year ken


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1712 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #33 - May 21^st, 2025 at 8:37am	Print Post
	The finds and purchases are amazing. I would encourage anyone who found a new treasure to picture it here so folks ( the ones who didn't go) can see them. What power is the scope? Have never seen one that long before. JMH


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16801 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #34 - May 21^st, 2025 at 10:11am	Print Post
	jhm wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 8:37am: The finds and purchases are amazing. I would encourage anyone who found a new treasure to picture it here so folks ( the ones who didn't go) can see them. What power is the scope? Have never seen one that long before. JMH I haven't figured out what power the scope is yet? They were made mostly between 2x and 10x, and Wm. Malcolm began building scopes in 1855, and died in 1900. The company was owned by four different others until it closed in 1940. Malcolm scopes like the one I bought were used on Sharps rifles during the Civil War by the Berdan Sharpshooter unit. I own two short Malcolm scopes that weren't too painful to buy, but long Malcolms generally go more than a good single shot rifle so pretty expensive. This one was a real bargain at less than 1/3rd of any I've ever seen for sale. Nearly broke my arm grabbing for my wallet.

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1757 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #35 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:20am	Print Post
	CW wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 11:08pm: Here is that Gibbs with the scope.... Bob, I really enjoyed seeing your table and the rifles you built. I am in aw. We didn't have a lot of time Friday to talk about the rare Hepburn action and its variations but it was something I would like to learn more about. I did not know about it. Is it in Tom's HEPBURN Book? Fun Stuff!!! Yes, that is the Gibbs 2000 yard gun, now in Tom’s collection, and I’m now doing some work on. This is a big gun that the picture does not really show. The Hepburn Walker Patent guns are in Tom’s book. The one on my table (the one I copied) and the other, are both shown at the end of the Walker section. Bob
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Bnelson Full Member Offline Posts: 178 Location: Lower Michigan Joined: Jan 5^th, 2009	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #36 - May 21^st, 2025 at 11:43am	Print Post
	What kind of scope and mounts are on the Gibbs? The mounts look like Malcolm Type A side mounts but not quite is that a Malcolm scope or maybe a Davidson? Bruce


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1757 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #37 - May 21^st, 2025 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	Bnelson wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 11:43am: What kind of scope and mounts are on the Gibbs? The mounts look like Malcolm Type A side mounts but not quite is that a Malcolm scope or maybe a Davidson? Bruce Bruce, I was hoping Tom would jump in on this. The scope is stamped “Husband & Clarke, Bristol”. From what I have seen they made microscopes, telescopes and other precision tools in the mid 1800’s. Here’s a picture of the rear mount. Bob

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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 184 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #38 - May 21^st, 2025 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	I don't have the full history yet of the Gibbs/Metford, except that there were two rifles made for 2000-yard target shooting. The other one was in the late Bill Curtis' collection and is now in the British NRA Museum at Bisley, in England. The rifle weighs about 15 pounds, is .50 caliber, and not fitted with iron sights. It has a false muzzle. The load was reported to me as a bullet of 750 gr. and 150 gr. of black powder. I first saw it at a Great Western Show, probably 30 or more years ago. For some reason, unknown to me, the rifle was found to be impractical. More to come, as I find info.


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1712 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #39 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 12:40am	Print Post
	Mr Rowe, Just a note to thank you for the book that is Hepburn. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed a book as much. So much information and the pictures are beyond description. Thank you again. Resp. J. Holland (JMH)


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1757 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #40 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 8:05pm	Print Post
	TRowe wrote on May 21^st, 2025 at 10:03pm: I don't have the full history yet of the Gibbs/Metford, except that there were two rifles made for 2000-yard target shooting. The other one was in the late Bill Curtis' collection and is now in the British NRA Museum at Bisley, in England. The rifle weighs about 15 pounds, is .50 caliber, and not fitted with iron sights. It has a false muzzle. The load was reported to me as a bullet of 750 gr. and 150 gr. of black powder. I first saw it at a Great Western Show, probably 30 or more years ago. For some reason, unknown to me, the rifle was found to be impractical. More to come, as I find info. Since I have Tom's gun, and with Tom's permission, here are a few pictures of it. Bob

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LRF Oldtimer Offline Posts: 673 Location: MN Joined: May 8^th, 2010	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #41 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 7:15am	Print Post
	Bob, Is the trigger a single set trigger? It kind of has that appearance. Of course if it is a set trigger that would be somewhat of a change from the typical configuration of 1000 yd match rifles as you know. Anyway just a question, thanks.


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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 515 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #42 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 10:33am	Print Post
	It looks like it cleaned up well. Did that take a lot of time?


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Bent_Ramrod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1508 Location: Southern Arizona Joined: Feb 8^th, 2006	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #43 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	What is the function of the extra set of holes on the rear scope base plate? Does it elevate the scope a standard amount (like a "Known Ranger") for adjustments at extra long distances?


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Jamey Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: Hilltowns of Albany County NY Joined: Jun 3^rd, 2021	Re: greeley co show(aka the denver collectors show) Reply #44 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 1:57pm	Print Post
	It seems like there’s much more really on the other side of the country. I’m jealous!


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