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WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
May 7th, 2025 at 8:35am
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Retired (6) years ago, on a fixed income and was I told I need to start down-sizing...yet here I go looking for something else to acquire!

The tool needs to be one that one that does not need to have holes drilled into the receiver or gizmos to serve as an anchor attached to the receiver.

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Reply #1 - May 7th, 2025 at 11:08am
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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2025 at 9:42pm
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #3 - May 7th, 2025 at 10:23pm
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All CPA sells is plugged cases.  Russ Weber made lever style breech seaters for CPA rifles when he was alive.  A few years back someone here was like ok’ing into making Weber style seaters but nothing has been advertised.  I make cam style seaters for high walls and have been asked to make one for a Miller action.  Like other rifles, hammer spur clearance is an issue, but CPA has a lower profile hammer than original Stevens 44-1/2s.   
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #4 - May 8th, 2025 at 9:27am
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David Moss made A great BS copy from the Weber. Color case ,beautiful. I contacted him a couple weeks ago to buy another...said he quit making them.
My idea to copy and modify one of my Benton BS to make it more compact.Just dont have the time right now.....That would be the besy way to go, if someone wants to start making them......IMO
  
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #5 - May 8th, 2025 at 11:30am
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David was the member that I was thinking of. He never really advertised his seaters.  I looked at making a Weber style Ballard seater but there would have been to much hand filing and fitting.  I
  
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2025 at 11:36am
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Oakdale wrote on May 7th, 2025 at 8:35am:
Retired (6) years ago, on a fixed income and was I told I need to start down-sizing...yet here I go looking for something else to acquire!

The tool needs to be one that one that does not need to have holes drilled into the receiver or gizmos to serve as an anchor attached to the receive



Thanks!

Tom


I have a Russ Weber pictured here. Send me three fired cases. I will make a new stem & bronze plunger to fit.
$300 shipped.



  
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #7 - May 8th, 2025 at 12:16pm
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A cautionary note to original 44 1/2 users: I have a Weber CPA tool as pictured above which I thought I could persevere and make work on an original 44 1/2. After filing it to within an inch of its life I just can't make it clear the Stevens hammer (and I hate seating with a plugged case). Next step is to fit a CPA hammer, if it can be done, and continue with the Weber tool.
  
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #8 - May 9th, 2025 at 1:36am
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CPA hammers will NOT work in a Stevens.  Trust me, I tried (and Gayle will tell you the same thing (she told me, but ... Undecided ))

You can make a hammer that gives you sufficient clearance to use a Weber or straight breech seater.  Mostly it's a slightly lower nose and a much lower spur.
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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2025 at 5:35am
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Buy the Weber pictured, you won’t be disappointed 

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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #10 - May 9th, 2025 at 1:09pm
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Smoke wrote on May 9th, 2025 at 1:36am:
CPA hammers will NOT work in a Stevens.  Trust me, I tried (and Gayle will tell you the same thing (she told me, but ... Undecided ))

You can make a hammer that gives you sufficient clearance to use a Weber or straight breech seater.  Mostly it's a slightly lower nose and a much lower spur.


Thanks. Saved me some frustration. I'm almost tempted to forego the 44 1/2 as I really dislike the plugged case routine. I'm using three separate cases with stepped increments in order to start the bullet straight into the rifling and finish up with the bullet straight and just in front of the chamber. Works but is slow, and I'm not confident that I'm ending up completely straight up the spout.


  
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Reply #11 - May 9th, 2025 at 2:30pm
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Years ago I had the same problem and rather than get a new hammer made for an 044 1/2  I was playing with, Doug Knoell and I designed the one shown in the pics below.  

(Disclaimer: We didn't invent this from the ground up.  I'd seen something similar in use by Bob Birmley at Raton and Doug and I just played off Bob's idea).

This starter works by pulling the case forward, slipping a bullet into it, straightening out the entire tool so you can slide it into the receiver.  Then when you lift the handle, the hooks at the front of the aluminum part drop down into the receiver mortise.

Lift the handle and it cams the bullet into the chamber.  Depth is controlled by the length of the seating rod, which has a threaded end and plug.
  
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2025 at 2:54pm
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Smoke,

Does that work with a CPA?
  
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Reply #13 - May 11th, 2025 at 7:24pm
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The Weber CPA seater I posed above is sold.
  
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Re: WTB breach seater for CPA .38-55
Reply #14 - May 11th, 2025 at 7:51pm
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Smoke wrote on May 9th, 2025 at 2:30pm:
Years ago I had the same problem and rather than get a new hammer made for an 044 1/2  I was playing with, Doug Knoell and I designed the one shown in the pics below.  

(Disclaimer: We didn't invent this from the ground up.  I'd seen something similar in use by Bob Birmley at Raton and Doug and I just played off Bob's idea).

This starter works by pulling the case forward, slipping a bullet into it, straightening out the entire tool so you can slide it into the receiver.  Then when you lift the handle, the hooks at the front of the aluminum part drop down into the receiver mortise.

Lift the handle and it cams the bullet into the chamber.  Depth is controlled by the length of the seating rod, which has a threaded end and plug.


Doug Konell - there's a name I haven't heard in quite a while.  Used to shoot with him in San Diego.
  
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