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scharfe Oldtimer Online A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 603 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Mystery Barrel Apr 13^th, 2025 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	It looks like a Stevens but it has 14TPI threads. What is it ?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17434 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2025 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Fraser falling block?

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3537 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2025 at 5:46pm	Print Post
	The shank looks too long for a Frasier unless it is the camera angle.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17434 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2025 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on Apr 13^th, 2025 at 5:46pm: The shank looks too long for a Frasier unless it is the camera angle. Just a WAG Jack. Might help if we had diameters on threads and the shank. I think Cadets have longer shanks?

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scharfe Oldtimer Online A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 603 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2025 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	shank dia .996 length 1.461


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17434 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #5 - Apr 15^th, 2025 at 9:49am	Print Post
	scharfe wrote on Apr 13^th, 2025 at 6:38pm: shank dia .996 length 1.461 I don't see anything in DeHaas book that matches that. A Gibbs Fahrquson is close, but it had dual extractors and a slightly smaller shank. So must be some oddball action it fits?

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nuclearcricket Oldtimer Offline Posts: 812 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #6 - Apr 15^th, 2025 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	The cut on the botttom of the barrel says Rolling Block. The thread size says Spanish Oviedo Rolling Block. I have one of those but it has a sliding extractor and that barrel looks like it is cut for perhaps a rotary extractor of some sort. Sam


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wesg Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 322 Joined: Sep 13^th, 2004	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #7 - Apr 16^th, 2025 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	My likely useless comment is ... 14 TPI ... sounds British to me. No idea where my 'books' are ...


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 814 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 12:07am	Print Post
	1902 Rollingblock, 7mm Mauser.

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nuclearcricket Oldtimer Offline Posts: 812 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #9 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 12:21am	Print Post
	Smoke, I didn't know they have V threads but that makes total sense with that extractor cut. Sam


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 814 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #10 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 12:36am	Print Post
	I don't know about the threads either. I just saw the cut and offered a suggestion. The only thing I do know about the cut is that the gunsmith who fitted that barrel for me charged me extra for the extra PITA work

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7539 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #11 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 2:09am	Print Post
	The 1897 and 1902 RB had a 12 pitch, square thread. The BP have a .975 x 12 square thread pitch. Edit: The thread diameter for the '97/'02 is 1.050. As I remember, all of the Remington RB's have a 12 pitch.
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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 814 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #12 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 10:42am	Print Post
	How about one of the later reproduction rolling blocks? Navy Arms? Uberti? What else might have used that style extractor? (and what caliber is this barrel?)

	I've never really trusted Smokey the Bear. Everytime I see him I wonder what happened to the Boy Scout that was orginally wearing that hat.
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scharfe Oldtimer Online A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 603 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #13 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	375 caliber. perfect bore, lovely crown. twist about 1 in 12. For $ it was a no brainer.


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nuclearcricket Oldtimer Offline Posts: 812 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: Mystery Barrel Reply #14 - Apr 17^th, 2025 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	The Extractor cut isn't right for a Pedrosoli rolling block and they don't need the underside cut either. I think but am not sure, the thread pitch is 12 on them. Sam


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