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Reply #60 - Apr 12th, 2025 at 7:06pm
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The solvents or vehicle carry the oil into the wood. Oils such as linseed ( boiled ) and Tung are formulated with drier solvents that promote penetration. New wood if your referring to previously finished wood will of course absorb less finish as you can never remove all of a penetrated finish from the wood at the cellular level. Virgin stock is a blank slate and will always accept more finish. 

Another major factor is the inherent oil content of the wood species even fresh varies. Many species contain lots of natural oils especially tropicals like rosewoods, teaks etc. and even domestic like hard or yellow pines. Some cuts of walnut, the primary source for gunstocks, have more oils than others so nothing is black and white

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Reply #61 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:12pm
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While wandering the aisles of the KCKS Bass Pro/Cabela’s today, I spotted the Birchwood Casey section. In addition to bluing products and Tru Oil, they had a couple bottles of their Sealer & Filler. I used it the first and last time 30+ years ago on a T/C muzzleloader kit then forgot all about it. 
Since I’m in the middle of a finishing experiment using some of the suggestions from this thread, I bought a bottle figuring one more variant can’t hurt. I sanded a scrap to 220, laid on a coat per directions, and will see how it turns out come morning.
  
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Reply #62 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 10:20pm
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Good luck. The stuff continues to shrink in the pores even after it's dried and cured - at least the times I tried it, so have given up on it. Perhaps the formula's been changed, I don't know.
  
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Reply #63 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 12:43am
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I tried pore filler one time, it seemed to work well.  Then, I started to put on the oil finish.  It seemed to work, but after a few applications, there started to be little areas opening up on the pores; it appears that the filler would shrink up and then come out.  I eventually just stripped the whole finish, sanded down below the pore filler, and used the traditional sanded slurry fill.

Now, I fill with Acraglass thinned a bit with acetone.  It doesn't seem to have the shrinkage problem.  At least not in the short term.
  
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Reply #64 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 10:12pm
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I was given this today, anybody have any experience with Watco Marine Finish?   

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Reply #65 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 10:05am
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Not the Marine finish, but have used Watco Danish Oil many years ago and seemed to give a nice finish. I still have a can of Watco Oil Danish Polish I use to wipe on old stocks and color blemishes.
  

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Reply #66 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 11:28am
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Never used Watco's oils on yachts and honestly never knew any other professionals who did. From what I know Watco formulates a proprietary varnish/oil and I'm pretty sure all of their product line is just that with a few additives and some pigments. Years ago they sold lots of boat owners on their Watco Teak Oil for decks and trim but it didn't last long, hardly used on decks anymore. 

As a varnish/oil with several solvents or vehicles it penetrates very well but it's very low viscosity so won't fill and build. It produces an attractive color and is still used in the furniture circles. It used to have some serious drying oils so it's imperative to seal rags or they will flame up something fierce. My opinion is this product is well suited to gun stocks with several coats or pure oil or spar varnish. I know nothing at all about their filler product, never even seen it. 

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Reply #67 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 4:41pm
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Thanks, Rick,

I'll just use this like I use their Danish oils, as a stain.  Not a magic item for final finish, unless it just happens to come out that way when I try it.
  
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Reply #68 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 7:06pm
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I am very happy with boiled linseed oil.
Many years ago now I took out  a book from the library regarding making knives by either a Swedish or Norwegian guy   
or somewhere else in scandinavia who said that boiled linseed oil changed its composition over time in the wood. 
Looks like all knife handles are made of Birch there and some really curly Birch look fantastic.
  
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Reply #69 - Apr 26th, 2025 at 10:03am
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Not sure about linseed oil formulations in Scandinavia but here it's not boiled at all. In fact I don't know why they call it "Boiled". It's just pure flax seed oil with some metallic salt driers

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