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Honing a bore
Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:26pm
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Since many of us have quite varied interests, I am taking the liberty of asking for recommendations for someone to lap or hone the bore of a pitted 12-Gauge Browning A5.It dates to 1927-28 and is in good condition. I'd sure like to restore it to full function if possible. Thanks in advance.
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 12:30am
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Maybe not the same, but two friends of mine used brake cylinder hone to "jug choke" their muzzle loading shotguns for the trap events at the Friendship matches. They went in about a half inch and cut a 5 1/2 inch long relief about .005 deep. This significantly improved their patterns. 

You might use the same technique to clean up your barrel. Go slow and use plenty of cutting oil. 

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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 1:18am
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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 9:14am
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Look up flex hone or ball hone on the net. Get (or make )an extension for your drill, some kerosene and hone away!!!

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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 10:36am
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A ball hone can make the bore smooth, but will be tough to keep it consistent sized. The flex hones are better at avoiding ripples in the bore.
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 11:04am
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Here’s Flex Hones information.  I have a flex hone for 12 gage but have never used it, moved away from shotguns to single shot rifles.

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To do a proper job they use a solid long stone for pit removal in a powered machine.  Although, I’m not saying it can’t be done using a flex hone.

I would suggest you ask this same question on the Double gun forum.  Once you get past the nonsense over there, it’s a pretty good forum and lots of knowledge on shotguns.
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Reply #6 - Mar 26th, 2025 at 11:54am
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Cleaning up a vintage pump or auto I would run a brushed rod on a power drill . Solvent first & possibly light abrasive paste on a shop towel wrapped around the brush.  Then pattern the gun & look for stray pellets outside the pattern. If a few pellets out leave it alone.  Shotguns not very bore condition critical. Particularly with modern shot cup wads. 

Take too much out of the muzzle likely to loose choke construction. Worse get a bit of out of round point of impact can change and they don’t have sights to adjust out the error 

I’ve owned a number of obscure pumps, bought mostly to figure them out, all sorts of complicated mechanicals. Never did more than a good cleaning. Many fine SXS guns have been point of impact ruined by muzzle and choke alterations. Parker for example barrels cut or chokes opened sell for less than half unaltered gun for good reason 

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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2025 at 12:24pm
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I have a Stevens model 180 hammerless 16 gauge that I'm considering trying to hone a jug choke in the bore. It would be a nice gun to use at rabbit camp. With a cylinder bore now it's not much use to me,other than being a scarce little shotgun with some collector value.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 28th, 2025 at 7:05pm
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I honed the chambers of my double 12 coach gun as the skeet loads would stick (full loads were ok).  Use a VERY fine grit.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2025 at 5:17am
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condorsc wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:26pm:
Since many of us have quite varied interests, I am taking the liberty of asking for recommendations for someone to lap or hone the bore of a pitted 12-Gauge Browning A5.It dates to 1927-28 and is in good condition. I'd sure like to restore it to full function if possible. Thanks in advance.


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Re: Honing a bore
Reply #10 - Mar 31st, 2025 at 12:54am
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Sure shot wrote on Mar 27th, 2025 at 12:24pm:
I have a Stevens model 180 hammerless 16 gauge that I'm considering trying to hone a jug choke in the bore. It would be a nice gun to use at rabbit camp. With a cylinder bore now it's not much use to me,other than being a scarce little shotgun with some collector value.
   

I have seen several 2- and 3-sets of screw-in chokes in recent auctions, pretty cheap. If you could get your muzzle threaded that would breathe new life into your gun.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 31st, 2025 at 8:59pm
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I have an old American Browning 12 ga. from the War years.  Folks tell me that the Cutts Compensator has ruined the value.  Embarrassed

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Reply #12 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 10:27am
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jfeldman wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 8:59pm:
I have an old American Browning 12 ga. from the War years.  Folks tell me that the Cutts Compensator has ruined the value.  Embarrassed

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Depends.  Others look at it as a haggling point.  It is a period correct classic  accessory-adds value in the haggling process.
  

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Reply #13 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 12:31pm
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The war years' American Brownings were made by Remington. I knew an American officer who was an inspector in the Remington plant that was producing military shotguns. He said the "Brownings" were just coming out of an area in the plant that did better quality output. I have one of the 12 gauge ones which they marked "Auto 3" instead of the European "Auto 5". I also had a 20 with a Cutts.
  
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Re: Honing a bore
Reply #14 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 2:16pm
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[quote author=4E5D4C191E1F191D2D0 link=1742959608/13#13 date[/i][/i]=1743525088]The war years' American Brownings were made by Remington. I knew an American officer who was an inspector[i[/i] in the Remington plant that was producing military shotguns. He said the "Brownings" were just coming out of an area in the plant that did better quality output. I have one of the 12 gauge ones which they marked "Auto 3" instead of the European "Auto 5". I also had a 20 with a Cutts. [/quote]

Your Auto 3 “should” only hold 3 rounds in the magazine tube, rather than 5. It “should” have a shorter magazine tube and correspondingly shorter forearm, but who knows what has been done to it over the years.

Those varying length mag tubes were offered on different versions of the Remington marked shotguns, but only offered for a very short time on Browning marked shotguns.

I “thought” all the Browning made Auto 3 variations were both post-war and Belgian production, but apparently that is not the case.
  

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