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Can 32 S&W be used in a Ballard #2
Mar 12th, 2025 at 2:29pm
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Seems I read this some where.  Can 32 S&W ammo be used in a Ballard #2, 32 Long with the reversable firing pin?
  

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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2025 at 3:07pm
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No, the .32 S&W is a larger diameter case, and if it fits in a #2 in .32 Long it means someone reamed the chamber larger.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2025 at 3:10pm
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.32 Colt would work, unless the chamber has been reamed for the .32 S&W.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2025 at 5:10pm
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Thank you marlinguy and sureshot!
  

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Re: Can 32 S&W be used in a Ballard #2
Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2025 at 2:00pm
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Oldbee, unless your example is in mint condition or has some great historical value, it is but a few minutes work to run a chamber reamer into your Ballard #2 and make it able to chamber 32 S&W Long.  The bore and groove diameter will be a little generous, but it will give minute of tin can accuracy, and if you cast your own bullets sizing them just a bit larger will help.  Cartridge manufacturers saw the light and began loading 32 Colt Long ammo with inside lubed bullets with hollow bases.  Those outside lubed bullets with rebated bases in the original Colt (and the 32 rim fire) design are a pain to load!
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2025 at 6:17pm
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I bought a #2 Ballard at Tulsa some years back with a sewer pipe bore. Being unshootable, I installed a TJ's liner, chambered it to 32 S&W Long, and have had nothing but fun with it ever since. It's like a grown up 22LR.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2025 at 6:41pm
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  The bbl was rusted inside and out.  I cleaned it up the best I could.  Thanks for the option!
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:50am
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Oldbee wrote on Apr 7th, 2025 at 6:41pm:
  The bbl was rusted inside and out.  I cleaned it up the best I could.  Thanks for the option!


If the outside surface can be salvaged to be acceptable to you, a barrel liner sounds like the answer to your needs.  Otherwise, a replacement barrel (an old but serviceable one) or new one from someone like Green Mountain would be the way I would suggest.
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:12am
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I lined a badly pitted Ballard barrel with a TJ's liner and chambered to 32 S&W Long. It is easy and cheap to load and fun to shoot. It's everything the old 32 rimfire was and more.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:14am
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Are you sure that .32 RF/.32 Colt bore dimensions are radically different from .32 S&W? In my experience with a handful of both they present at pretty much the same. The S&W chamber is bigger due to inside lubricated bullets versus the outside lubed heeled bullets of the other, but that's the main difference. If anything the RF/Colt bores are a touch smaller.
  
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Re: Can 32 S&W be used in a Ballard #2
Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 12:23pm
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gnoahhh wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:14am:
Are you sure that .32 RF/.32 Colt bore dimensions are radically different from .32 S&W? In my experience with a handful of both they present at pretty much the same. The S&W chamber is bigger due to inside lubricated bullets versus the outside lubed heeled bullets of the other, but that's the main difference. If anything the RF/Colt bores are a touch smaller.


I don't think there's any difference in bore size between .32 Colt, .32 Long, and .32 S&W, but when I owned a couple minty Model 1892 Marlin lever actions chambered in .32 Long I was always buying .32 Long Colt ammo to feed them. I found some shot great, and some shot poor groups. When I pulled apart those that shot poorly I found they almost always had undersized bullets. Usually around .309"-.310" diameters. I assumed back then that maybe Colt revolvers had tighter bores, but not ever owning one in .32 Long to check, I'm unsure still why some ammo was smaller projectiles.
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:13pm
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Here's my cast #2 in .32 S&W Long. I got the action that had the converted CF and DST block off the list. The barrel was a .32 Long I got from Tony Maddox with the idea that it would get a TJ liner and it was lined and chambered by Oregun. The stock is from CPA. It is so sweet to shoot.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 12:25pm
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This is what it looks like after some cleaning.  It has a nickel plated action, lever and but plate.   
The bbl is 26" and appears uncut, with correct sights.

  

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Re: Can 32 S&W be used in a Ballard #2
Reply #13 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 1:02pm
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26" was the most common length found on most #2 Ballard rifles. The nickeled parts were special ordered and a nice touch. As with all Ballard rifles the buyer could special order almost anything Marlin did on their rifles. I own a #2 with nickeled receiver and small Farrow buttplate that was ordered to be like a #9 Union Hill, but in .32 Long. It's got nicer wood than my #8 and #9 Union Hill rifles have, and is pistol gripped with a loop lever. Neatest #2 special order I've ever found.
  

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Re: Can 32 S&W be used in a Ballard #2
Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 1:42pm
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Now that you mentioned it, I suppose my block and lever are nickeled and the barrel is 28 inches. My #2 in 44-40 (originally 38 long) has a 30 inch barrel so I had assumed that the 28 inch was shorter than normal. I should have noted that the original 32 Long barrel's bore wasn't totally terrible so I borrowed a 32 S&W Long reamer just to see how it would shoot. The problem with doing this is that you will need a pilot about 2 inches long to center the reamer in the chamber as it starts to cut right away as you have to clear the old chamber and any freebore to get to the rifling.
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