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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2036 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #15 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 8:33am	Print Post
	The barrels I have were made in the early nienties (1992ish) for the now out of business Shawnee Rifle Co. They were a very small hole in the wall business building 77 Sharps from Rodney Storie castings. They are cut rifled barrels already profiled for the 77 Sharps. I referred to them as blanks so my bad as they were ready for install. JMH


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #16 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	condorsc wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 5:02am: Wayne, hopefully you or someone can shed some light here. Douglas, etc. stamp their name (assumedly still do) on the barrel flat in line with the run-out, so the user can align it up or down depending on their preference and avoid slinging the bullet to one side. I began wondering how conventional barrels handle this. Can one tell the direction of the run-out by measuring? Do manufacturers take run-out into account in the assembly process? This inquiring mind at least would very much like to know. Gerald, I don't fully understand your question. I'm no expert on barrels & have not heard of barrel suppliers identifying runout. Are you referring to bore alignment vs. the OD? I'm assuming, since you mentioned "barrel flat", you're referring to an octagon profiled barrel rather than a round barrel. In any case, if the bore is properly indexed prior to chambering then bore runout becomes a nonissue - rotational orientation during assembly should not matter other than orienting one flat at the top. Wayne

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2602 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #17 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	jhm wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 8:33am: The barrels I have were made in the early nienties (1992ish) for the now out of business Shawnee Rifle Co. They were a very small hole in the wall business building 77 Sharps from Rodney Storie castings. They are cut rifled barrels already profiled for the 77 Sharps. I referred to them as blanks so my bad as they were ready for install. JMH I remember a few people on the Shiloh forum talking about those early cut rifled Badger 45 cal barrels long ago. From what I remember there weren't many made. I think Dan Theodore had one, but I could be remembering that part incorrectly. Chris.


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condorsc Full Member Offline NRA Life/Benefactor, ASSRA, SCV Life Posts: 210 Location: Beaufort, S.C. Joined: Nov 13^th, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #18 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 4:12pm	Print Post
	texasmac wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 12:12pm: condorsc wrote on Feb 9^th, 2025 at 5:02am: Wayne, hopefully you or someone can shed some light here. Douglas, etc. stamp their name (assumedly still do) on the barrel flat in line with the run-out, so the user can align it up or down depending on their preference and avoid slinging the bullet to one side. I began wondering how conventional barrels handle this. Can one tell the direction of the run-out by measuring? Do manufacturers take run-out into account in the assembly process? This inquiring mind at least would very much like to know. Gerald, I don't fully understand your question. I'm no expert on barrels & have not heard of barrel suppliers identifying runout. Are you referring to bore alignment vs. the OD? I'm assuming, since you mentioned "barrel flat", you're referring to an octagon profiled barrel rather than a round barrel. In any case, if the bore is properly indexed prior to chambering then bore runout becomes a nonissue - rotational orientation during assembly should not matter other than orienting one flat at the top. Wayne Sorry, I failed to mention I was referring to muzzle-loading barrels. Runout (drilling error caused by the drill wandering a bit) was indicated by stamping the maker's name on that side of the barrel. It was a simple matter to orient runout by shaving a little off the breech end, so the bullet dispersion was up or down, not out to the side. This caused me to wonder how runout is managed in breech-loading ("modern") rifles, especially when switching new or used barrels in different receivers. It's been my understanding that it's impossible to make a barrel with zero runout; therefore, how is this handled in modern rifles? Obviously it IS handled; I just don't understand how.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #19 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 11:56pm	Print Post
	Gerald, I now understand your question. Years ago, some barrel suppliers like Douglas were boring muzzle-loader barrels using finished octagon stock that resulted in barrels with some runout. As you indicated, Douglas barrels would have the company name stamped on the flat that was to be installed with the stamping facing up or down. That meant the sights only had to be adjusted to bring point of impact up or down. The runout wasn't excessive and didn't affect sight windage because the runout was positioned vertically. I understand today’s barrels, including Douglas’, are first bored then rifled & mounted between centers. The outside is then machined for zero runout. Wayne

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condorsc Full Member Offline NRA Life/Benefactor, ASSRA, SCV Life Posts: 210 Location: Beaufort, S.C. Joined: Nov 13^th, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #20 - Feb 10^th, 2025 at 12:08am	Print Post
	Thanks. I assume today's breech loader barrels undergo the same or a similar process? I had never wondered about this until this thread.


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