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JKR Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Badger Barrels Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Were all the Browning and Winchester BPCR barrels made by Badger from the start until the end of production?


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2033 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #1 - Feb 6^th, 2025 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	Don't know. I have had a few over the years and still have a 40 and 45 blank. They were cut rifled and very good barrels at the time. They stopped production and went full govt. contract work a few years ago. Wish they would bring them back... JMH


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condorsc Full Member Offline NRA Life/Benefactor, ASSRA, SCV Life Posts: 210 Location: Beaufort, S.C. Joined: Nov 13^th, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #2 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 1:46am	Print Post
	Wouldn't consider rehoming that 45 Badger blank, would you? I'm over here in S.C., in Beaufort.


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2033 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #3 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 2:15am	Print Post
	Thanks for the offer but I think I will hold on to it. I have a Hepburn build I will probably use it on. You can sometimes still find them. I got these two by chance from a fellow shooter builder at my local club. Krieger barrels are also cut rifled if that is what you are looking for. They are very expensive. JMH


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #4 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 3:48pm	Print Post
	JKR wrote on Feb 6^th, 2025 at 12:43pm: Were all the Browning and Winchester BPCR barrels made by Badger from the start until the end of production? Yes, but some confuse the BPCR models with other Browning models that also come in .45-70 and/or .40-65. Only the Browning & Winchester's with heavy half-octagon half-round barrels with pistol-grip stocks are BPCRs, and all were manufactured by Miroku with 30" or 34" Badger barrels. The Browning's BPCRs were made in .40-65, .45-70 & .45-90. The later Winchester's in .45-70, .45-90 & .50-90. Wayne

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1822 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #5 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	The Badger BPCR barrels were not (single point) cut rifled. Ernie had gone to Broach cutting for the BPCR barrels and many other barrels, Still , excellent barrel quality. But when they were in the retail barrel business, you had no choice but to go with his standard twists. NO choices beltfed/arnie


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JKR Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 6:08pm	Print Post
	I ask because I have a take off barrel from a Winchester 45-90 BPCR. It had no “B” marking on the under side like other Badgers I’ve seen. This particular barrel had the chamber drilled off center with the bore. Since it was 34” I decided to have the 45-90 chamber cut off and the barrel turned round for the entire length. When it was centered up in the lathe it was discovered that the bore was off center with the outside diameter by about .030”. When it cleaned up it’s a bit lighter than I expected but still a respectable weight and 31” in length. JKR


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ssrifles Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 321 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2009	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	i have a few badger barrels i got out of axtell rifle co after they went out of business. thet are 35 1/2" long have been profiled for there full oct 77 long ranges. i have rethreaded a couple one for a hepburn and another for a rolling block. plenty of metal to rethread for just about any action. they are threaded for 77 sharps and will also fit a 74. new in the white even still have the yellow mesh ernie sold them with. 450.00 plus shipping. tony<><


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2025 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	I had several conversation with Ernie Stallman. As beltfed noted, the BPCR barrels were broached-cut. During a call on 10/24/01, Ernie indicated that he'd shipped 4,000 .40cal & 4,000 .45cal barrels to Miroku. But I know for a fact they were not all used on the BPCRs. Miroku only made 3,457 .45cal, 1,300 .40cal & 126 .50cal BPCRs, so no doubt the remaining were used for other rifles or are still in Miroku's inventory which I doubt. My notes from the last call with Ernie say that Badger's broach-cutting removed only .0001" with each pass, so 40 passes would have been required prior to polishing the bore. No doubt that's a typo & each pass actually remove .001" requiring only 4 passes with the broach, then the bore was polished. Wayne
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wesg Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 333 Joined: Sep 13^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #9 - Feb 8^th, 2025 at 10:38am	Print Post
	More likely .0001 per tooth, 40 teeth on the broach. Broaching is a single pass. And the twist is locked into the broach by staggering the notches. Want to change the twist? Make another broach. 4000 barrels? Sounds like a lifetime of work to do that single point.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #10 - Feb 8^th, 2025 at 11:48am	Print Post
	wesg wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 10:38am: More likely .0001 per tooth, 40 teeth on the broach. Broaching is a single pass. And the twist is locked into the broach by staggering the notches. Want to change the twist? Make another broach. 4000 barrels? Sounds like a lifetime of work to do that single point. wesg, Thanks for the clarification. I had a misconception about the broaching technique. After watching some YouTube videos on firearm barrel broaching, I believe I now understand the process. A 40 tooth broach, cutting .0001" per tooth now makes perfect sense. Wayne

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JKR Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #11 - Feb 8^th, 2025 at 11:57am	Print Post
	So I’m assuming that Ernie supplied the rifled blanks and Miroku then did the profiling, chambering, etc?


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #12 - Feb 8^th, 2025 at 1:02pm	Print Post
	JKR wrote on Feb 8^th, 2025 at 11:57am: So I’m assuming that Ernie supplied the rifled blanks and Miroku then did the profiling, chambering, etc? Yes, your assumption is correct. Wayne

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condorsc Full Member Offline NRA Life/Benefactor, ASSRA, SCV Life Posts: 210 Location: Beaufort, S.C. Joined: Nov 13^th, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #13 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 5:02am	Print Post
	Wayne, hopefully you or someone can shed some light here. Douglas, etc. stamp their name (assumedly still do) on the barrel flat in line with the run-out, so the user can align it up or down depending on their preference and avoid slinging the bullet to one side. I began wondering how conventional barrels handle this. Can one tell the direction of the run-out by measuring? Do manufacturers take run-out into account in the assembly process? This inquiring mind at least would very much like to know.


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JKR Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: Badger Barrels Reply #14 - Feb 9^th, 2025 at 7:56am	Print Post
	beltfed wrote on Feb 7^th, 2025 at 5:53pm: The Badger BPCR barrels were not (single point) cut rifled. Ernie had gone to Broach cutting for the BPCR barrels and many other barrels, Still , excellent barrel quality. But when they were in the retail barrel business, you had no choice but to go with his standard twists. NO choices beltfed/arnie Arnie, What method did Boots use?


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