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Husqvarna 33
Feb 5th, 2025 at 1:12pm
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Just unwrapped the first Husqvarna 33 I've ever seen. Know next to nothing about it. A 32-40 case will chamber, the bore appears to be more or less 30-32 caliber. The under side of the barrel is marked 7.6MM. Working on getting the bore slugged and the chamber figured out. The cleaning rod is missing. Anyone know if it was wood or steel like Remington rolling blocks? For that matter, any idea what it might be chambered in?
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 1:45pm
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There was a very good thread here on ASSRA where we discussed the Type 33 and 33a Husky rollers a lot. But I just tried finding the old thread with no luck. 
I own a Type 33A in 9.5x47R that's very close to .38-55 and I use that brass and dies to load for mine. Mine needs smaller diameter bullets so I use .376" bullets in my slightly shortened cases. I'd guess yours needs to be slugged to know exact groove diameter, and a chamber cast done to get an idea of what donor brass will work. Likely .30-30, .32-40, or .32 Win. Spl. brass may all work once you know the length and shape for sure.

Here's another link that has some info also:
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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 3:58pm
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Wow! That's a beautiful rifle.
  
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Re: Husqvarna 33
Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 4:24pm
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I have one that I really need to do a chamber cast on, plus slug the bore.

I’m fairly sure mine is a 9.3x57R, otherwise known as the 360 2 1/4, but all that remains to be seen.

I will have to dig out photos, or perhaps take a few new ones. 

It is very petite and elegant in comparison to a full size rolling block.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 5:44pm
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Forgot to address the wiping rod question. They were one piece metal, not wooden.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:13pm
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I saw that rifle at auction and thought it was very nice.  Considered bidding on it but bought a Ballard earlier.  Very nice rifle hope it shoots as well as it looks.
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Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:54pm
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Here's mine. I also had the half stock but this is the one I really wanted so I kept it. Both of mine were in 9.3x57R(360) and that is also the rifle caliber in my Husky hammer combo. I would bet that yours is in 8x57R(360). The (360) was attached to these cartridges because the German cartridges were based on the British 360 2 1/4 case and they added the (360) to avoid confusion with the cartridges based on their military rounds. The best way to make the brass is to use the last easily available German cartridge that is based on a longer (360) case and that is the 9.3x72R which just needs to be cut to 57mm for the 9.3x57R(360) or cut to 57mm and necked down to 32 (maybe in a 32-40 sizer) and then fire formed. Oh, if you look at my pic you can make out that the ramrod is brass with a steel jag slotted for a patch. Both of mine had very nice triggers and shot well and very pleasantly. In Sweden they were popular for shooting their version of a large grouse from the tops of spruce trees. Somewhere on the web there is a pic of one being used for that. As Otony said, petite and elegant are very good descriptors. I believe I can make out a trace of the original checkering on your pistol grip. You will love it.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 8:19pm
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Just found some more info.
Calibers: 5.6x35R Vierling (possibly also listed as 6x36R);
6.5x42R; 8x42R; 8x57R(360); 8x58R Sauer; 9x47R; 9.15x57R(360) - more commonly known as 9.3x57R(360); 9.5x47R; 10x47R; and 10.5x47R.
Most common were probably 8x57R(360) and 9.3x57R(360). All were originally black powder loaded smokeless later. The CIP Pmax figure for the 8x57R(360) equates to 35,534 psi.
Here's what the checkering originally looked like:
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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 9:53pm
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Oneatatime, how is your cleaning rod retained? I like the idea of a slotted tip. I have brass slotted tips and brass jags, both threaded 8/32, so easily added to a length of brass or steel rod.

Spent the afternoon making 32-40 Winchester brass and getting ready to fireform. Most likely a waste of effort but when it got started I didn't know anything about 33s being made in 8x57R360. 

The checkering on the pictured rifles is beautiful. Didn't know what I didn't know. Thanks for helping get me going down the right road.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 6:59am
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Beautiful rifle, in much better condition than mine.

I thought mine was chambered in 8X57R - 360 (and actually bought the - very expensive - reloading tool to then discovered it actually was in 8X58R Sauer...

A chamber cast (which I sould have done) is a must...

both can be tested with 32-40 formed brass, but best results will need transformed 9.3X72R.

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Reply #10 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 11:31am
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I'm probably going to take my Type 33A 9.5x47R to Greeley in May to sell. It's a nice gun with plenty of case color, but doesn't fit into my collection of Remington Rolling Blocks.
  

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Re: Husqvarna 33
Reply #11 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 11:39am
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Hi Freebird. Good points, and your rod is just like mine. Could you describe the differences for everyone between the 8x57R(360) and the 8x58R Sauer. Vall, you may be sorry;-)
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 11:45am
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Freebird, that's really helpful information. I won't be shooting capercaillie but I do have steel coyote that's not too hard to sneak up on.
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 12:02pm
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8x57R - 360 is a necked down 9.3x57R - 360, so kinda botleneck (i.e. fatter under the neck)

I believe it was introduced in 1896 as a smokeless round with jacketed bullets.

8/58R Sauer is an original BP proposition using the same size bullets than the previous one but with a straight tapered case (very much like a longer 32-40).
It uses lead projectile.

the latter(sauer)  can be chambered (and fire formed) in the former (8x57R - 360), but as I have unfortunately discovered, it's not possible the other way round  Roll Eyes

Ah! a gunsmith friend was selling his extensive collection of RCBS reloading tools, so I was able to acquire both sets in the end -might have to look for a gun in 8x57R - 360 now that I have the tools... any excuses really)
  
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Re: Husqvarna 33
Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 12:05pm
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Vall, what do you make 9.5x47R from ?

I believe this round to be based on the 11 mm Mauser military round (shortened), and this is not a very common round to find, even in Europe...


Ah, just re read your post... not the same 9.5X47R than the one I was looking for (9.5 X 47R Stahl)... sorry
  
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