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Cleaning 8,15x46R.....
Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:03pm
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For the last 25 years or so I have been cleaning brass using ceramic and a bit of lemon or lime juice. Works well for me in most cases (pun intended). I only have a problem with cleaning the small, straight wall stuff like the 8,15x46R. It gets stuck in the case with 3 pieces side by side. Damn hard to remove. What do you guys recommend for these cases? Steel pins, other forms of ceramic?
  

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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 1:46pm
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Vibratory with walnut shell.
  
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so inefficient in comparison to ceramic...
  

If your rifle is not in 7.62 and you can't hit what you are aiming at with de-linked machinegun ammo you are a pretender.
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A clean, polished case is a clean, polished case. What does "efficiency" have to do with it?
  
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Time?
  

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steel pins.
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 7:36pm
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I once polished cases religiously- took much pride in the fact that my cases would be the shiniest ones on the line. Now, I clean the primer pockets with a RCBS brush and soak the cases for a couple of days in Birchwood-Casey fluid solution. Then I brush the case mouths out and let 'em dry. Not so shiny now, but I'll be darned if they don't shoot just as well as the spiffy guys did. Never even once needed to pick anything out of the cases since I went this way.
  
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Time? Why, do you stand there and watch them?
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 10:24pm
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I started with walnut media in a Vibrashine which would clean the case OK if you washed them out well first and let it run for a few hours.  Then I switched to using an ultrasonic cleaner, but the max time is 480 seconds so I would have to restart it 5 or 6 times.  A few months back I dug out my Thumbler's Tumbler and got some ceramic 'rice' pieces and tumble for an hour in Lemishine and dish detergent.  I think the ceramic will last years unlike the walnut and the sniny cases will reflect light into the eyes of my competitors and I will WIN
  

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Reply #9 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 7:35am
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Order a couple pounds of smaller ceramic media. Go to Kensley North or any rock tumbling site. It’s pretty cheap…smaller works better for me in all my brass sizes…

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P.S. walnut shell is for old people with a lot of time.😂👍
  
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bpjack wrote on Jan 23rd, 2025 at 10:24pm:
  I think the ceramic will last years unlike the walnut and the sniny cases will reflect light into the eyes of my competitors and I will WIN


I used to wear "lucky sox" to competitions, they were pink. It was an accident from doing my own laundry as a single guy while drunk. Anyway, I would always point out my "lucky sox" to my nearest competitors and explain I always got a little nookie when I wore them. Whenever they looked at me I would indicate the sox. Got to a point they would avoid eye contact to mitigate distraction....
  

If your rifle is not in 7.62 and you can't hit what you are aiming at with de-linked machinegun ammo you are a pretender.
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oneatatime    Which is why my response is followed by a ? Or why even bother. Or time equals money Or?
  

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I suppose I was asking if the desired result is a clean polished case why is time such a critical factor?
  
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Reply #13 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 8:54pm
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SS pins, water dish soap and alcohol. Set tumbler for one hour. Consume the Gin and tonic and poof your brass is clean. I got a small VEVOR tumbler for small brass like 32-40/38-55 and smaller.
  

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Reply #14 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 9:26pm
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I am not sure what the poster meant by his response, hence the question mark, after my response. I would guess it best to pose the question to SchwarzStock. I personally have tried most options through the years, and have found that pins work best for me. In part at least to a good friend who made a huge tumbler for me. Of particular use in cleaning large quantities of brass, which I might mention I rarely do at this point. The advantage with walnut shell is that it polishes nicely with no need to dry. That is what I use for very small quantities. Found the sun and or oven solve the drying problem with a liquid process. Truth be known, to me other than looking spiffy, have not found much difference between sparkling clean and semi dirty from an accuracy point of view. A quick brush through the neck and quick spin with a primer pocket tool is enough for me at this late date. Time for experimentation is running out, better spent at the range when possible. As the Rolling Stones once sang, "Time Waits For No One".
  

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Reply #15 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 10:48pm
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I’ve used about every method available.  I’ve settled on 3 basic methods for cleaning brass.

Most common for me is throw them in the vibratory cleaner with walnut shell.  Sure it takes several hours, but that’s why they invented those timers for Christmas tree lights.  It can tumble while I’m at work, or sleeping, or doing something fun.  With the timer I don’t have to remember to turn it off.  I don’t use walnut shell from the reloading stores.  I use lizard bedding from the pet store.   

Second most common, and more often used for extremely dirty brass, is to throw them into my homemade rotary tumbler with SS pins, water, a tablespoon of citric acid, and a squirt of Dawn.  Hour later they are clean, but the time waiting for them to dry makes this method a wash time wise when compared with walnut shell.  If the brass is really, really, really dirty, it might take a second cycle of cleaning to get rid of all the schmoo on the brass.  Just dump the water, refill, and tumble for another hour.  I’ve been using the same 10 pounds of pins for 15 or so years.  My homemade rotary tumbler will hold well over 1000 small rifle (like 5.56) or pistol cases and over 500 large rifle cases (like .45-70 or .30-06).  It’ll hold more than that, but the water gets dirtier and needs to be changed if you overload it.

Least common for me is the wipe the necks, brush the primer pocket and load again.

All 3 make functional ammo.
  
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Remember that the primer residue accumulating in the walnut media 
Becomes a inhalation hazard.  Wet tumbling eliminats that if the dirty water is disposed properly.


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Pretty much everything about shooting and reloading is an inhalation hazard.  I’m not saying we shouldn’t exercise caution, but if fear of breathing dust is a problem for you, you should pick another hobby.
  
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My dirty black powder ctg. water is disposed of properly down my drain Cheesy

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Reply #19 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 5:14pm
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Not everyone is so fortunate as to have such a good and wise buddy as you.... Roll Eyes

GunBum wrote on Jan 25th, 2025 at 10:28am:
Pretty much everything about shooting and reloading is an inhalation hazard.  I’m not saying we shouldn’t exercise caution, but if fear of breathing dust is a problem for you, you should pick another hobby.

  

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Reply #20 - Jan 27th, 2025 at 1:51pm
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I've used ceramic media to wet tumble for many years and only had one size I bought that gave me an issue, and it was small enough to stick sideways in primer pockets of brass using large primers. Never an issue sticking inside any cases I cleaned. I simply went a but longer length ceramic pins and solved the issue.
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 27th, 2025 at 2:05pm
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Only time I cleaned 8.15X46R brass was after using BP. Otherwise it never got real dirty.
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 27th, 2025 at 3:00pm
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My brass cleaning is largely BP cases from silhouette matches.   I give them a rinse with water after de-capping and let it go at that.   I’m guessing the batch of 200 40-65’s have 60-70 rounds thru them after 25+ years of shooting and are still doing fine. They get an annual cleaning of primer pockets.  Polishing and pickling brass only takes off metal and makes them look “perty”, doesn’t extend their utility or life-time.

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Reply #23 - Jan 29th, 2025 at 2:15pm
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If you have a strong need to have your primer pockets clean then angle cut ceramic if very good and the SS pins will also clean the pockets. If you just want your cases clean inside and out and are not worried about the primer pockets then 3mm ceramic balls will work well and will as a rule not stack in your cases. 
I do also feel that no matter what media you use in wet tumbling your cases eventually you will have something stick inside. Ceramic can be a bit hard on a decaping pin. A SS pin can and will do damage to your barrel. I had my gunsmith tell me this as he had seen it in a rather expensive barrel. 
Another alternative is to use an Ultrasonic cleaner and then vibrate in coarse walnut hulls. Hot water, white vinegar and maybe some lemishine will do a very nice job of cleaning up smokeless cases. Doesn't work so great on cases fired with Black Powder.
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Reply #24 - Feb 7th, 2025 at 4:59pm
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See this shell casing? It was real dirty. I stuck it in my pocket intending to show it to someone but I kept forgetting, after a couple weeks I remembered. When I pulled it out of my pocket to show it was nice and clean. 

So since most of us have two pockets in the front and two in the back we could stuff 25 in each pocket and just forget um. Cheap and easy way to clean cases.
  

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Reply #25 - Feb 9th, 2025 at 1:54pm
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I tend to wash my jeans more often than that to be useful, unless you leave the case in your pocket through a few cycles to get it extra clean!!
  

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Reply #26 - Feb 9th, 2025 at 2:28pm
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I tried the pants pocket method the other day in the laundry. Some cases got squashed when my pants went through the wringer and most others fell out on the ground when hung up on the line. The wind scattered them some. 
What case is that? - looks like a .303 Savage maybe.
  
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Reply #27 - Feb 9th, 2025 at 3:11pm
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33 Winchester. Really clean. Don't think the pants pocket method would work on BP fouled cases. 

Wringer washer? Impressive.

Using your Chubby Checker moves will speed up the cleaning process.

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