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.22 for BCPR
Jan 11th, 2025 at 1:04am
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Been having a blast shooting lever action silhouette. I wanted to get into .22 BCPR. Looking for recommendations.  It seems what I find are:
Winchester Japanese 1885’s  reasonable but sell fast
CPA 44 1/2 beautiful but a little more than I wanted to spend
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I found a couple of guns listed on Gun Broker as 44 1/2 Ideals in not bad shape but been re-lined buy who knows who for buy it now of $1500 but no one is bidding on them. It seems something is screwy if a new cpa is $3120 and these aren’t selling at $1500
Please enlighten me before I make a mistake
Btw I have a deadly accurate bsa martini I shoot in open .22 silhouette.  It is a kick and what got me into this stuff, but it isn’t legal in the bcpr shoots
  
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Re: .22 for BCPR
Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 1:52am
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I am very happy with my CPA it has serve me well. Very accurate with a great trigger. 
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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:56am
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The simple answer is that those 44 1/2's on gun broker are over priced for what they are.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 9:30am
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I assume that they are over priced or they would have bids
Keep comments coming about what I should buy
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:06am
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My advice would be go to a match look at all the different types.you might even be able to try a few.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:16am
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Most any rifle you find used will most likely need a new or relined barrel. There are a number of good actions out ther that will make very good rifles for this.  A#2 remington rolling block, a 1 1/2 rolling block, Winchester low wall, hepburn, Even a high wall can be used but can be a pain to get the fired case out of. The CPA and a Winchester low wall are probably the easiest to get a case in and out of. The CPA does give you the option of changing barrels to give you a center fire rifle with the same configuration as your RF. 
I have worked as a Range Officer for a number of 22 bpcr matches and have seen a wide variety of rifles used. I don't think any particular action holds an edge over any other. The barrel may be a different story but reguardless of your barrel, its finding the ammunition that it likes best and then stock up on that brand/lot. Most .22 ammunition in a good barrel will shoot good to 100, the real test is how well it holds up at 200.   
One thing for sure is it is a whole bunch of fun, hands down. Can be frustrating at times but the fun outweighs that. 
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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:43am
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If you can find a high wall Winder musket with the ‘eject’ spring extractor then you don’t have the issue of picking the spent case out.  I also have a low wall , 2 Ballards and a Stevens 44.  The Ballard action is the only one of those 3 that is easy to manually pluck the case out without the ‘danger’ of it falling into the action.  My Stevens will not tolerate a case in the action guts but the low wall will manage to keep going with 1 inside but not 2.  The case gets crushed but the rifle keeps functioning.  The last time I removed the block on that low wall a mushed case fell out that i didn’t even know was in there. 

Kurt, is the .22 high wall I sold your friend still going strong?   

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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:00pm
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I just looked at the 44 1/2 22 LR rifles on Gunbroker. Way over priced someone is looking to hit a homerun off an uninformed consumer. Even at a good price I would pass on those rifles for 22 BPCR. The configuration doesn't loan itself to the shooting discipline and are more than likely not accurate enough.
  

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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 2:27pm
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I  have a Japchester that has a Badger barrel on it and shoots great.  I also had another Japchester that had the stock barrel on it.  It shot well, but I think that the chamber was a little too generous.  My buddy had CSA make him one and it shoots great.  They do offer low walls.

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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 5:22pm
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And just a reminder that it doesn't have to be a CPA 44 1/2 to be able to interchange barrels. An original Stevens 44 1/2 works just as well.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 10:29pm
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Thanks fro the posts, keep them coming
Re: those on gun broker..
Things Fishy are unknown who put the liner in, but it is new un-fired????
Look at the the case colors vs the rest of the rifle, might be a torch job or chemicals
I must say the seller did respond to my questions about it, weight, trigger pull etc.
But I just sold a CZ Safari Magnum for a lot of money, more than I expected... the CPA is looking better all the time.
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Reply #11 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 7:35am
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Things I look for in a target rifle, ranked.

Does it meet competition rules, at the top edge, using up all the available advantages without going over

Is the barrel up to the matches standard, realistic accuracy, not one off bragging groups.

Sight’s absolutely precise repeatable & easily adjusted 

Best trigger available is essential 

Is it stocked to fit me.

Can I keep the gun running myself. Spare parts, ease of replacement, springs firing pins etc. And will the maker perform more extensive repairs promptly 

CPA has met all my requirements since 1992

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Re: .22 for BCPR
Reply #12 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 8:50am
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Some good originals come up from time to time.
I watched this one, should have bid but let it go.

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Re: .22 for BCPR
Reply #13 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 10:32am
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If a cpa can be made to fit the budget I'd go that way.  Mine is a schuetzen model so not bpcr 22 legal, but it shoots fantastically well.  I used to use a Crossno liner which is surprisingly good.  Under ideal weather conditions it has more than once shot 10 shot moa groups at 100m.  However it needed expensive rws ammo to do it.  My CPA with a Douglas XX barrel shoots a little better with SK Standard Plus which is way cheaper.  It likes expensive ammo even more of course, but is still very good with the SK Std Plus.

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Re: .22 for BCPR
Reply #14 - Jan 12th, 2025 at 10:36am
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I own and have shot the cpa, good rifle but their chambers are a bit wonky
Steven’s 44 works good but that deep crescent is a bit uncomfortable on the lay downs
The first generation miroku lowall plenty capable rifle with a good trigger job
Had CSA build a lowall on a barrel I ordered from McGowen. Super accurate , had to send it back 3=timesto fix crap that never should have left the factory. Still has its issues
Bottom line when you find a rifle test as many different ammo as you can to find what it likes, and do the testing at 200 meters on a windy day. Don’t scrimp on sights good quality sights are a must
  
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