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Reply #15 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:23pm
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Reply #16 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:55pm
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I'm not sure I'd call the one that started this topic in the same class as that one Joe! Or even close to the same style. 
The one you just posted is an amazing example of an exotic offhand rifle! 
I don't own a Rolling Block scheutzen rifle, but have always wanted one! I may have to just build one up as the few factory Rolling Block scheutzen rifles I've seen were all crazy prices, even in well used condition!
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:58pm
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marlinguy wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:55pm:
I'm not sure I'd call the one that started this topic in the same class as that one Joe! Or even close to the same style. 
The one you just posted is an amazing example of an exotic offhand rifle! 
I don't own a Rolling Block scheutzen rifle, but have always wanted one! I may have to just build one up as the few factory Rolling Block scheutzen rifles I've seen were all crazy prices, even in well used condition!


But I'm puzzled by the title of this thread "feuerstutzen"? Translator comes up as "fire nozzle"???
  

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Reply #18 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 7:01pm
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I want one too but it would have to be a factory rifle or built like a factory rifle. The rifle I pictured is, well, I thought well crafted but just out of sorts.
  

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Reply #19 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 8:34pm
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The last one posted is fantastic, but color me ignorant.

How do you open the breech?

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Reply #20 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 8:44pm
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Lower the lever. A Pope lever on a German style rolling block. What will they think of next?
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 11:04pm
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westerner wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 8:44pm:
Lower the lever. A Pope lever on a German style rolling block. What will they think of next?


Duh, I was staring at the breech block so much I didn’t even notice the lever.

No excuse, I’m getting old….
  
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Reply #22 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 3:56am
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I'm puzzled by the title of this thread "feuerstutzen"? Translator comes up as "fire nozzle"???

As often happens, the translator software is being too literal.  "Stutzen" is a collective, generic term for a "short rifle"/"carbine".  A "feuerstutzen" or "Feuer Stutzen" is generally speaking a single shot rifle meant for informal target shooting. It usually has target-type sights, often a finger rest-type lever, and in Germany is most popularly chambered for the 8.15 x 46R cartridge.

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Reply #23 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 8:40am
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LRF wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:35am:
Don't read German (or whatever it is), or see any English conversion button, so can't tell what it says about the bore. From the pics, only, I see a troubling bore as the rifle has been shot a lot or just not cared for after it was shot. The breech block face is quite eroded from corrosive berdan primers. And I would be curious what other readers think of the hammer marks on the back of the breech block just above the firing pin. They look like one of the previous shooters had to tap home the breech block for whatever reason, to insure clearance for the hammer to fall freely under the BB and hit the firing pin. A common issue with rollers.


Easy peasy!  Open google translator, German to english. paste the text and you have an instant translation.

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Reply #24 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 8:57am
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MrTipUp wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 3:56am:
I'm puzzled by the title of this thread "feuerstutzen"? Translator comes up as "fire nozzle"???

As often happens, the translator software is being too literal.  "Stutzen" is a collective, generic term for a "short rifle"/"carbine".  A "feuerstutzen" or "Feuer Stutzen" is generally speaking a single shot rifle meant for informal target shooting. It usually has target-type sights, often a finger rest-type lever, and in Germany is most popularly chambered for the 8.15 x 46R cartridge.

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With the exception of calling these rifles "meant for informal competition" that is about right.

Here is today's listing of Feuerstutzen for sale on gunfinder.de. 

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Reply #25 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 2:35pm
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Reminds me of a Carlos Gove conversion save for the shape of the under-lever.
  
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Reply #26 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 5:38pm
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RBKenn wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 2:35pm:
Reminds me of a Carlos Gove conversion save for the shape of the under-lever.


And the double set triggers. My Gove conversion has a single set trigger.

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