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Reply #15 - Dec 23rd, 2024 at 3:36pm
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Question for those in the know. Is there any information on what month of a certain year these were made? Or a good estimate? I know these Winder's were made starting in Jan 1918 with serial number 121,800 and ended with serial number 129,154 or so, from what I can find. Mine is serial number 127,235 making it a 1918 manufacturer. I'm guessing maybe Sep/Oct timeframe?

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Reply #16 - Dec 23rd, 2024 at 3:53pm
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Good read. My takedown musket       (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  

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Reply #17 - Dec 23rd, 2024 at 4:17pm
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Very good read for sure. Thank you for that!

Nice 2nd gen you have there as well.  Smiley
  

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Reply #18 - Dec 24th, 2024 at 12:27pm
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All put back together with new parts, and fresh oil/grease.  Smiley

  

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Reply #19 - Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:20pm
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Looking good!!!

I just finished the patch up work on the cracks in my butt stock today!  I have a fine coat of tung oil on it just just seal the repair areas.

Once testing is complete, I have to disassemble and straighten the rear sight as it is bent as many Winder sights are.  Not too big of a job.  After that's done it's time to source and/or clean up some of the screws and get a liner put in.

While it's off for lining, I will gingerly refinish the stocks.
  
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Reply #20 - Dec 24th, 2024 at 10:20pm
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desertmoon wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
Looking good!!!

I just finished the patch up work on the cracks in my butt stock today!  I have a fine coat of tung oil on it just just seal the repair areas.

Once testing is complete, I have to disassemble and straighten the rear sight as it is bent as many Winder sights are.  Not too big of a job.  After that's done it's time to source and/or clean up some of the screws and get a liner put in.

While it's off for lining, I will gingerly refinish the stocks.


Thanks! All of the internals look to be good now and the external appearance of the steel is great, not a speck of rust or pit in sight. The wood just needs a light cleaning and a layer of wax to seal it up.
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 29th, 2024 at 9:04am
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Took her to the range yesterday morning. Sorry, no target pic, the range got packed before I left and I couldn't get downrange to get it. It was really just a quick function test day anyways. The old girl did pretty good.

  

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Reply #22 - Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm
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Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )
  
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Reply #23 - Dec 31st, 2024 at 3:41am
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desertmoon wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )


One of mine has a TJ liner, a match chamber, and a single set trigger.  Pretty good offhand rifle, but the barrel is too light for the bench.

They never worked very well as military-position type (prone, sitting or kneeling) rifles.  Almost any man or woman can put enough stress through a rifle sling to change the point of impact.  Unless you could make a one-piece stock (like Eric Farr).
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 31st, 2024 at 6:12am
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desertmoon wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )

Thank you! She's a beauty for sure. I got lucky on this one.

Groups were OK. I wasn't really trying for super tight groups that day. Just really a function check and to try out different types of ammo to see what was shooting closest to point of aim. Good day overall. Smiley
  

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Reply #25 - Jan 1st, 2025 at 5:32pm
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waterman wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 3:41am:
desertmoon wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )


One of mine has a TJ liner, a match chamber, and a single set trigger.  Pretty good offhand rifle, but the barrel is too light for the bench.

They never worked very well as military-position type (prone, sitting or kneeling) rifles.  Almost any man or woman can put enough stress through a rifle sling to change the point of impact.  Unless you could make a one-piece stock (like Eric Farr).



Good information.  I do intend this to be an off hand rifle.  I'll pay attention to stresses on the bench or when slung. 

Thank you again for the tip!  Much appreciated!
  
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Reply #26 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:40am
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desertmoon wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 5:32pm:
waterman wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 3:41am:
desertmoon wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )


One of mine has a TJ liner, a match chamber, and a single set trigger.  Pretty good offhand rifle, but the barrel is too light for the bench.

They never worked very well as military-position type (prone, sitting or kneeling) rifles.  Almost any man or woman can put enough stress through a rifle sling to change the point of impact.  Unless you could make a one-piece stock (like Eric Farr).



Good information.  I do intend this to be an off hand rifle.  I'll pay attention to stresses on the bench or when slung. 

Thank you again for the tip!  Much appreciated!

When I bench shoot, I always put the rest right under where your hand would naturally be.
  

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Reply #27 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:54pm
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scottz63 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:40am:
desertmoon wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 5:32pm:
waterman wrote on Dec 31st, 2024 at 3:41am:
desertmoon wrote on Dec 30th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dang, yours looks soooo good!!!!!

Mine worked VERY well in testing but...

...groups...mmmm...not so much.  A liner will fix that.  ( bore is toasted )


One of mine has a TJ liner, a match chamber, and a single set trigger.  Pretty good offhand rifle, but the barrel is too light for the bench.

They never worked very well as military-position type (prone, sitting or kneeling) rifles.  Almost any man or woman can put enough stress through a rifle sling to change the point of impact.  Unless you could make a one-piece stock (like Eric Farr).



Good information.  I do intend this to be an off hand rifle.  I'll pay attention to stresses on the bench or when slung. 

Thank you again for the tip!  Much appreciated!

When I bench shoot, I always put the rest right under where your hand would naturally be.



As do I.  I am also pretty ginger with falling blocks, bolt guns and such.  I don't thing I could stress a Winder barrel enough to notice it in my advanced age.   Grin
  
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Reply #28 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 6:12pm
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desertmoon wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 4:54pm:
As do I.  I am also pretty ginger with falling blocks, bolt guns and such.  I don't thing I could stress a Winder barrel enough to notice it in my advanced age.   Grin

I don't think anybody could. That's a lot of steel with a little hole.  Grin
  

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Reply #29 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 8:06pm
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I have a 3rd model Winder musket like yours. My father bought it new from DCM about 1930. It is chambered in 22 short. It will NOT chamber 22LR. It is a great rifle and fun to shoot. If yours will not chamber a 22LR them I would recommend that you leave in 22 short. Too many of old rifles have been messed with. 

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