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Dec 19th, 2024 at 11:39pm
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Old shooter looking for a new challenge. I would like to begin casting bullets with the intent of breach seating.  I’m buying Randy Wright’s book, but would also appreciate your suggestions/recommendations pertaining to caliber.  Looking for one that is relatively easy to find components, relatively easy to work up an accurate starting load, and relatively soft shooting to get me started. I’m guessing one of the.32 caliber cartridges, but which one? All suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Tom
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 2:31am
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I would suggest a 32/40. You can get anything you want for it "off the shelf". I would start with a 14 twist. 

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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 7:27am
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Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 8:44am
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further, the .32-40 is thrifty to shoot. a miser at burning powder, brass lasts forever and the fussiness of many cartridges is absent for the most part. I have been shooting the same one for nearly forty years and still have some of the brass I started with. For what it's worth.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 9:31am
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I understand that .32-20 cases are somewhat difficult to find. Where would you recommend looking?  I’m going to order the barrel from Gail at CPA, is a 1:14 twist the standard or wouldn’t I need to specify it? Thanks, Tom
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 10:59am
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Tom, the guys above are talking about 32-40 not 32-20, but maybe you just entered the wrong number.  The two are different animals.  Brass can be found for either, just need to be patient and keep looking.
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Reply #6 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 11:41am
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My mistake, I meant .32-40.
  
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Re: New to Cast Bullets & Breach Seating
Reply #7 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 11:53am
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Dr. J,
If you go with a modern built/ rebuilt rifle in 32-40, you will need a good bullet mould, a way to lubricate your bullets, a breech seating tool, a re- and decapper, and a powder measure.  A box of 20 fresh cases will be the greatest of plenty brass, since you will probably use the same one over and over.
It may seem a little daunting to begin with, but if you compare it with the cost of a good set of golf clubs, or a skiing outfit, or whatever equipment intensive game you look at, it becomes reasonable!
Of course I’m an infamous enabler and you’ll spend the rest of your life chasing “the next best thing” but I’d love to give you a little shove at the top of the hill!
Good luck!
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Reply #8 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 11:57am
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32-40 brass is expensive. Anywhere from 2.00 to 3.00 each. 
You can make 32-40's out of .32 Win. Special but they will be short. Or 38-55 case's.
  

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Re: New to Cast Bullets & Breach Seating
Reply #9 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 12:00pm
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In a pinch just use 30/30 brass and neck it up or fireform it.  Are you planning on using a plugged case to seat the bullet?  If so, you might as well have CPA make you one or maybe two, one to start into the barrel and the other to seat it to the desired depth.  I learned that trick from Gail's father Paul when looking to breech seat my 25/35 Original Stevens.  I have to use a tapered bullet with a plugged case.  When I breech seat in my 32-40 built on a Story Striker I use a mechanical seater and can shoot any alloy or bullet but still use a tapered bullet.  I don't have a measure suitable to use at the range so I measure all my charges at home and put them into plastic vials with rubber stoppers like they use when they take a blood sample.  They are easy to find and fit into a plastic 50 round cartridge box.  Have fun.  Tom
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 12:09pm
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Starline 38-55 is very easy to size down to 32-40.  Pick the 2.125" length.  Just run it through a 32-40 sizer and trim.  No need to even anneal it.

If shooting smokeless then each case will last a very long time.  In my old Ruger #1 I shot a single case 200 times.  A bag of 50 Starline 38-55 would give you years of shooting.

I am a big fan of the 32-40, but given what SchuetzenDave has shown me over the years, it's probably not as competitive as some of the modern cases.  I like it because its a traditional chambering, and also very accurate when shot breech seated.      

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Re: New to Cast Bullets & Breach Seating
Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 12:23pm
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I have 4 32-40s, one Ballard and 3 high walls.  Short cases like the 32 RKS might give you a slight competitive advantage they are a pita because they need a wad.  I am a fan of NOT precharging cases and prefer having a powder measure on the bench. I have adjusted charge weights in the middle of a match to address vertical stringing.  You can use a wad material like thin sheets of floral foam for at the bench loading but the 32-40 doesn’t need a wad and had shot many a 250. 

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Reply #12 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 12:28pm
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The recommendations to form .32-40 from 30-30 or .32 Win Special is an economical way to get brass. As also mentioned, those cases will be a little short. That's not an issue with breech-seated bullets, especially if you shoot with one case.
While the .32-40 is a good way to get into the Schuetzen game, other  .32 cal cartridges you might want to consider:
.32 Miller Short
.32 RKS
.32-20 CPA (it's based on the .32-20 pistol case, has proven accuracy record but case life is reported to be rather short compared to the others)
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 2:26pm
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My question(s) now pertain to bullets and bullet molds. I’ve never cast  before, are some bullet shapes easier to cast than others? Which bullets work you suggest, what mold makers would you recommend? 
I was given a 20lb. Lyman pot and ladle, are these adequate to start with? Metal composition 20:1? Am I somewhat in the ballpark? My apologies for all the questions,  but I’m obviously green as the grass when it comes to this subject. Thanks, Tom
  
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Re: New to Cast Bullets & Breach Seating
Reply #14 - Dec 20th, 2024 at 3:21pm
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A lyman pot with a ladle and 20:1 alloy is a great place to start.  I've been using a lyman 20 lb pot for years.  Definitely use the ladle, it's the best way to go in my opinion.

As far as molds go, it wouldn't hurt to start off with a cheaper one as you are learning, but once you get the hang of it you'll want a mold with the length & weight to match the rifling twist, and depending on what breach seater you are going to use, a bullet that fits the throat well and can be seated easily.

RSW's schuetzen book(s) are very useful when getting into it.  I recommend getting them both.
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