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Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Dec 13th, 2024 at 3:37pm
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I have an all original Rolling Block which could best be described as a Long Range Target Riffle. Its in immaculate condition as can be seen from the pictures. The very few references I have found in Roy Marcot's book are in the pictures of old ads. On page 146 the ad for Creedmore rifles lists a "B" grade with a plain stock as differentiated from the "A" pistol grip Creedmore. If any of you that might have more information about this gun I would sure appreciate it.
Also its in 44-77 caliber and weighs right at 10lbs with a 34" barrel.
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Re: Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:18pm
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Nice rifle, sweet piece
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:43pm
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Quite a first post. More more more!

Welcome, to the forum.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:50pm
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Very nice rifle!
  

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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:52pm
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westerner wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
Quite a first post. More more more!

Welcome, to the forum.

Thanks, I'll be posting a few more of my single shots in the near future.
  
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Re: Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 5:49pm
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Very nice Long-Range rifle. It’s strange that is has a rear barrel sight, but there is no such thing as “always” or “never” even when it comes to factory rifles. Are there any stamps under the forearm?

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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 6:09pm
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The only number under the forearm is the serial number 2498
There are several other things that set this gun apart from anything in Marcot's book. It has a full octagon barrel which Marcot says there are only 3 Creedmores known to exist; the Fulton rifle and Custer's Creedmore plus one other. It also has a checkered forearm and buttstok where as the only "B" grade rifle shown in Marcot's book on page 167 has no checkering. Since it has such an early serial number as compared with any of the other rifles in the book I can only assume that it was some sort of special order at the time.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 6:36pm
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What a piece of history...




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Re: Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:36pm
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Gorgeous rifle, and some neat options. I would guess the reason it is different from the typical Creedmoor models is because it's an early one. Those used in the 1874 Creedmoor long-range matches were built after Remington had cataloged this model and decided on standard features. That happened around serial number 3000 range, so yours is earlier.
The full octagon and straight grip are both unusual for the typical Creedmoor model. I've wondered if the B grade with plain stock meant plain wood, or plain wood and straight grip?
I own one of the few full round barreled Creedmoor Rolling Blocks, and mine is a full year before these rifles were introduced in the catalog. Mine is in the 1500 serial range, and like yours is different likely because they hadn't settled on half octagon barrels yet. Mine is a pistol grip model with deluxe wood, but not nearly as nice a condition as yours!
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:45pm
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The only "B" grade rifle in Marcot's book on page 167 is both plain wood with no checkering. The picture of my rifle that I posted above doesn't really show the quality of the wood which I guess would be called semi-fancy. It has nice flames but not a whole lot of figure.
  
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Re: Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:47pm
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Oleblacksmith wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:45pm:
The only "B" grade rifle in Marcot's book on page 167 is both plain wood with no checkering. The picture of my rifle that I posted above doesn't really show the quality of the wood which I guess would be called semi-fancy. It has nice flames but not a whole lot of figure.


Does yours have two screws holding the forearm to the barrel? Looks like it might, but can't quite see for sure.
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:57pm
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Wow, just wow. I know envy is a sin, but you might as well call me a sinner….
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:22pm
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I have never owned a Rolling Block, but that rifle sure would make me doubt my 'other' choices. Spectacular first post, like Joe says. Wow!
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:31pm
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Marlinguy-
The forearm has just one screw holding it on.
  
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Re: Slightly different "Creedmore" Rolling Block
Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 7:07am
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Oldblacksmith

What is the last patent date located on on the left side of the frame?

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