I have a 20” Contender barrel in .30-30

With good quality pointy jacketed bullets it shoots sub 1/2” groups at 200 yds.  I’ve never shot cast bullets with it.  It loves the Sierra 155 grain HPBT Palma bullets.  I was able to get almost 2400 fps with that bullet and both RamShot Tac and BL-C(2) without showing signs of pressure.  I don’t remember the exact loads, but both were right around the max loads in the manuals for 150 grain bullets.

I have been thinking about a dual-use falling block in 30-30, hunting and Schuetzen. I would like to use an American type rifle and cartridge in the local matches.

I have a CPA Stevens with a 30", 30-30 barrel; 1:10 twist.  Its a Schuetzen style rifle and I was trying to find a good 200 yd load.
Haven't found it yet, but I think maybe I need to speed things up and go to a harder alloy. All this was shot with a 165 gr. slug from an Accurate Mold using 20:1  alloy. All velocities are average measured with a Labradar.

Primers; Fed 210M
14.0 4198; 1240 fps
14.0 5744; 1420 fps
16.0 4198; 1530 fps
14.0 4227; 1350 fps

Primers Fed 150
14.0 4198; 1250 fps
14.0 5744; 1430 fps
14.0 4227; 1375 fps

I found it interesting that the Fed 150 primers gave slightly higher velocities.


Need to do more testing.........

Mike.

frnkeore wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 11:52am:


No, I shoot fixed.

As a kid growing up in SoCal son of a WWII USN South Pacific vet in a neighborhood where it seemed like everybody came out of the war and instead of going back home bought a cheap home in California, land of milk and honey. Lots of jobs, cheap VA housing, sunshine, beaches and orange trees. My four best friends Fathers moved from Indiana, Ohio, MI the industrial Midwest. All were machinists or tradesmen of similar skills. Like at home they loved to bowl, played 8-Ball or Snooker, lots of weekly card games, smoked cigarettes with no filters and Pabts Blue Ribbon was the only beer.  

Frank Snow was my neighbor and he was starting up Sierra Bullets in a Quonset hut at the time in Whittier, CA. In his shop was a beater Win 94 hanging on the wall. I asked him the story and he claimed it would group 1” or a bit less at 100 yards and would never part with it. There were four or five targets nailed up next to it. Lots of people called BS on him but the story was two of the targets were shot before some of his crew. How and why this old gun could shoot like this boggled the minds of many. I’ve had two old 94’s and one Marlin and 3.5” was best I ever shot. His rifle was a freak. 

Rick

You can't shoot GC's in ASSRA. You might get good accuracy w/o the GC, I've never tried it, as I always ream the GC area off of molds, that I use for BSing. I described how I do that, in another thread.

You might consider this mold:

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It's the only 30 cal bore rider that NOE has left in stock but, I haven't tried it. It will stabilize in a 10 twist.

I shot 30 cal in ASSRA for more than 20 years. 308 groove 32/35 (2.2cc case) and a 30/40 Krag with a machined case of 2.7cc capacity. I also built a .308 groove 32/20 for my wife. All my rifles are 14, 13 & 12 twist

All shoot competitively with tapered and bore riding bullets. This is a 10 shot, 200 yard group, shot at a match, with my 30/40 HW. The 30/40 is 12 twist.

Thanks for the bullet tip.  I size to 0.309".  Is that too much for a 0.311 slug?