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Sep 23rd, 2024 at 6:36pm
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At the Fall Beeson match I had an issue with my .22 RF Cody Ballard.  The hammer failed to hold the cocked position, so I was only able to fire two of the best-of-three 200 yard targets. Spoke with Keith and then sent the action to Wyoming Armory.  It arrived there last Tuesday.  Needed a sear spring (was cracked) and hammer notch re-cut. Today it is back in my rifle and working just like it should. 
Just a report on my experience and a thank you to Wyoming Armory.
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 6:48pm
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Thanks for that report.  I have some of the Cody Ballard rifles and have wondered who could provide the kind of services you needed.
Even with quality arms, one never knows when something will fail.
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Reply #2 - Sep 23rd, 2024 at 11:26pm
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Fortunately there is at least still Keith Kilby left from the old Ballard Rifle Co. at Wyoming Armory, and not sure if anyone else is still there with the new owner?
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 10:28am
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I’ve used Wyoming Armory now for about 5 years or so, anyway ever since they reorganized with George Dillman as the Owner. Now with their ownership with Cinnabar, they are still doing outstanding work. My Marlin lever action and parts they color cased are out for delivery today. It took longer for the mail than it did for them to do the work! I’ve also had Keith do some work on actions that was great.
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 10:31am
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Richard, please show some pictures of the action and parts when you can please.  I’ve been wanting to see how they are doing.
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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 12:16pm
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How are their prices for color case work Richard? Comparable to what others are charging?
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 1:04pm
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Bob,
It should arrive by late afternoon when our rural mail is delivered. I’ll get photos and post them.

Vall,
I assume they’re comparable to others. I think small actions like my last Marlin 1892 was $275.00 and large actions like my Marlin 1881 is $300.00. They raised their prices a little about a year ago as everyone is doing. 

I’m old enough to remember the Jimmy Carter inflation days. We were Burger King franchises then and one summer we had to raise prices every 30 days or go broke, I chose to raise prices!
  

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Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 5:16pm
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Bobw,

Below are a couple photos on the action I got back today. I redid the old stock that was in really bad shape. Of course each one they do come out of the quench with a difference in the color spread. I do like some of the reddish tint they normally have as the high condition originals I’ve seen have it.




  

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Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 6:29pm
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That surely resembles an 1897 I had long years ago. It had
a relatively rare factory floral carved/checkered stock and forend.
It was also quite accurate. The early Marlin .22 97s were special rifles. So were the 93s.

It went to a Texas dairy farmer who wanted it a lot  more than I wanted to keep it. I had two of them
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 11:05am
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Richard, that looks good.  It appears to have fairly complete coverage on the frame.  How did the lever turn out?  Seems most of the guys doing this work don’t alway get the coverage on the thin parts.
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Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 2:18pm
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Thanks Bob,
I’ve probably have had them do about 30 or so different actions from Marlin levers, Marlin Ballards, Winchester 1885s, Hepburn’s  and a few other makes.
Every one is a little different as it’s not an exact science. They have a system to wire all the parts together in order to get the maximum coverage. The levers also vary from lots of brown and blue tones and sometimes not the yellowish red. I also polish the parts to 400 grit and they also will do the 1,000 grits that puts a little more shine on them similar to your 438 scope.

When I start with the action looking like this (other side even worse with pits) I am worn out from polishing! LoL 

  

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Reply #11 - Sep 25th, 2024 at 6:23pm
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Thanks Richard, 
I’ve wondered if a higher polish would make a deference in the final look.  Something more for me to ponder!   

I’ve also wondered if some of the folks getting better coverage were shielding the parts somehow, to help retain the heat on the small/thin stuff, when dumping into the quench, giving better colors.
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:16pm
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Bob,
It’s been a number of years since I researched the CCH process, some of it I may not remember totally correct. First off I don’t know if Wyoming Armory uses shields or not. You may have read the old thread, maybe 20 pages, mostly posted by JimD who was experimenting with the process. I know he mentioned shielding, but don’t remember the results. I recall the wiring of parts together and quenching in the same manner each time helped. Something to do with splashing in the air circulated water immediately after taking the crucible out of the oven. Even the mixture of charcoal, bone and leather had its effects. Vall is gone for a few days but he participated in the long thread and can add more.
  

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Reply #13 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 3:43pm
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Richard, that looks great.    Wish we were closer.   I’ll send pictures of some wood on the 25-36 Springer has now to get your thoughts.
  

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Reply #14 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 5:45pm
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Crown-C wrote on Sep 26th, 2024 at 12:16pm:
Bob,
It’s been a number of years since I researched the CCH process, some of it I may not remember totally correct. First off I don’t know if Wyoming Armory uses shields or not. You may have read the old thread, maybe 20 pages, mostly posted by JimD who was experimenting with the process. I know he mentioned shielding, but don’t remember the results. I recall the wiring of parts together and quenching in the same manner each time helped. Something to do with splashing in the air circulated water immediately after taking the crucible out of the oven. Even the mixture of charcoal, bone and leather had its effects. Vall is gone for a few days but he participated in the long thread and can add more.


Jim Dager did try shielding on the parts and found that it was only needed on the outside of his parts at each end. The other parts being in close proximity to each other were enough to make good patterns on the parts. 
Jim did fantastic work on his case coloring and got a lot of help from Oscar Gaddy who gave him a lot of feedback on his work.
  

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