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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 192 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Does any of you esteemed gentlemen know where the patterns for the Axtell '77 Sharps rifles ended up? I just saw one shattered at the wrist and would like the help the owner get some wood turned up fr it that would fit.Thanks!


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TomKlinger Junior Member Offline Posts: 89 Joined: Feb 17^th, 2019	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	Try Kirk at Shiloh, I believe they acquired all the Axtel tooling.. Tom Klinger


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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 558 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 4:07pm	Print Post
	Well if you have the broke stock, that is your pattern. A tracing of it on your desired blank, band it saw out and start removing wood. Its really that simple. kw


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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 192 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 9:55pm	Print Post
	I don't have the gun, I did my own from Rodney's castings and made the stocks by eyeball.The guy who has the rifle will most likely do just as you suggest, but hope springs eternal I guess


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1560 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #4 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 5:44am	Print Post
	The stock issue is the main reason I don't build another 77. I did one about 30ish years ago from Rodney's castings but had it stocked by Long Valley Carving in Montana. The guys was named Paul. Can't remember his last name. Maybe some of you folks remember him or his business. He did an excellent job but it took forever. He promised four to six weeks but it turned into almost three months. Would do another if I could get it stocked. With me the placing of the back action lock is the problem. JMH


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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 267 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #5 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 6:51am	Print Post
	Have you called George Peterson at Treebone Carving?


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bluesman Full Member Offline Posts: 192 Location: Paradise, California Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #6 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 10:19am	Print Post
	I will pass that on to the fellow with the injured Sharps, and yes, I had a lot of time invested in getting that sidelock in the right place when I stocked my build, it's fiddly and you have to avoid removing too much wood. Thanks!


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #7 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	Lock position is an interesting problem. Tony Maddox talked me into a 77 casting set and have been working on it a little. Been thinking about a partial mockup, before actually stocking the action, in order to get the lock position correct, but since I hate practice probably will just go for it. Had a crazy fleeting thought to do something different and make it an island lock but, like I said it was fleeting. Bob JMH check you pm’s please.

	Robert Warren
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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1693 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #8 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	I don't think there's a finer looking Creedmoor rifle than 1877 Sharps with the long slender barrels and the thin forearms. Shiloh rifles are nice, but the heavy barrels and the thick forearms just don't do it for me. The Axtells were probably the most beautiful reproductions out there.


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1693 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #9 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 3:38pm	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 1:06pm: Lock position is an interesting problem. When I built my first muzzle loader, I chose the Hawken rifle. It was a lot of pain and anguish trying to decide where to inlet the lock so that the hammer would come down correctly on top of the cap. Bob S JMH check you pm’s please.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #10 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	Old-Win wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 3:32pm: I don't think there's a finer looking Creedmoor rifle than 1877 Sharps with the long slender barrels and the thin forearms. Shiloh rifles are nice, but the heavy barrels and the thick forearms just don't do it for me. The Axtells were probably the most beautiful reproductions out there. Interesting you say this. The barrel going on this gun is out of his shop. Tony ended up with several from Axtell’s wife. 34 inches long. Bob

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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #11 - Aug 24^th, 2024 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	Old-Win wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 3:38pm: bobw wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 1:06pm: Lock position is an interesting problem. When I built my first muzzle loader, I chose the Hawken rifle. It was a lot of pain and anguish trying to decide where to inlet the lock so that the hammer would come down correctly on top of the cap. Bob S JMH check you pm’s please. I’ve built a dozen or so flintlocks and percussions so I don’t understand why this one should bother me, but it does! Bob

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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 345 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #12 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 7:10am	Print Post
	Hi Bob, do you have a link to any of your builds? You do very nice work and it would be nice to pick up some tips. Cheers Richard


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1693 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #13 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 9:54am	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 7:15pm: Old-Win wrote on Aug 24^th, 2024 at 3:32pm: I don't think there's a finer looking Creedmoor rifle than 1877 Sharps with the long slender barrels and the thin forearms. Shiloh rifles are nice, but the heavy barrels and the thick forearms just don't do it for me. The Axtells were probably the most beautiful reproductions out there. Interesting you say this. The barrel going on this gun is out of his shop. Tony ended up with several from Axtell’s wife. 34 inches long. Bob That's going to make a nice looking rifle, Bob. The barrel is probably a Badger as Carmen was working with Ernie right up until the time she closed the shop around 2008-2009. I used to see her at the Quigley quite often but haven't seen her now in some years. She was there selling off a few guns and sights on Trader's row for about five years after they closed.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #14 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 11:34am	Print Post
	Richard, I don’t know what you could possibly learn from me, your work is fantastic! But, I will PM them for you. Bob

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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 558 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #15 - Aug 25^th, 2024 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	Carmen was at Quigley this year with an exquisite '77 Sharps and a couple other jewels for sale.


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idjeffp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 320 Location: Boise, ID Joined: Nov 11^th, 2017	Re: 1877 Axtell Sharps wood patterns? Reply #16 - Aug 31^st, 2024 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	I also got two of the Axtell barrels from Tony One for my 1877 and the other for the Freund Wyoming Saddle gun - building both from Rodney's castings Jeff P


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