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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1124 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Non-sliding scope? Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	I am looking for a scope to put on a Marlin 1893 that would look period correct but not slide in the mount so it must be reset for following shots. I would like something short like MVA's "B" but that one slides as does the Hi-Lux short scopes. I would take a long Hi-lux with the fixed from end like the old Malcolms but I don't like the Hi-Lux models with brass ends. Any suggestions?

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 890 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	Why don't you just use a recoil spring on the scope?


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	I would contact MVA and explain your need. They are very accommodating and should be able to supply two stops with a scope to lock it down. Not sure of the cartridge for your 93, and you might also ask them if their scopes will withstand the recoil if locked down. I am sure they will. I am not sure, but believe the 38-55 would generate the most recoil. I am sure you can find a solution to your dilemma. Sure shot's solution is probably the simplest as long as you compress the spring tight enough to preclude movement and still look correct. Should work!

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silver Full Member Offline Posts: 190 Location: Central wi, Joined: Sep 20^th, 2016	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	Couldn’t a lock ring be put on it?


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SBoomer Oldtimer Offline Posts: 949 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #4 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	Wollensak


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #5 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	SBoomer wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm: Wollensak Wollensak slides also. As will almost any old or new scope. I'd look into buying a Junior Targetspot with the recoil spring Sureshot mentioned as it will avoid hammering the crosshairs, and return on it's own. I hope that 1893 is already been drilled and tapped by someone for a scope! Otherwise it would be a shame to D&T it now.

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kootne Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 436 Location: Libby, Mt. Joined: Mar 6^th, 2012	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #6 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	I seem to remember Jim Gier telling me years ago that they (MVA) were putting the cross hairs on a Lense by etching, or laser or some permanent method directly onto glass instead of the traditional way. If that is so, I'm sure those scopes would handle recoil better in a solid mount.

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1084 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2024 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	The problem of the durability of the cross hairs is only half the recoil problem. The other half is the short eye relief. If the spring is locked down tight on a heavy recoil rifle, scope eye can be a real possibility.


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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1124 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2024 at 10:03am	Print Post
	I had an RHO on a C. Sharps in 45-100 and had not issues with "Scope Eye". Unfortunately they are no longer available... The 1893 is in 30-30.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Non-sliding scope? Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2024 at 8:06pm	Print Post
	It would seem that if MVA uses an etched reticule that would satisfy your requirement to not have scope slide and not and need to reset and have a scope robust enough to hold up to 30-30 recoil. As far as eye relief problems, avoid prone, stock crawling, and be aware. Without looking, I would think MVA took that into consideration. Again, run all this by them for answers to your questions.

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