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Steamtractor Participating Member Offline Posts: 45 Joined: Mar 27^th, 2015	Niedner 414 Stevens Aug 19^th, 2024 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Here is a Niedner barreled 414 Stevens that showed up in my LGS for sale. It has the Malden, Mass address on it and a very dirty bore. A pricey 414 for sure, is the Niedner barrel really a big deal?


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Steamtractor Participating Member Offline Posts: 45 Joined: Mar 27^th, 2015	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #1 - Aug 19^th, 2024 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Second pic


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 549 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #2 - Aug 19^th, 2024 at 3:10pm	Print Post
	Did you buy it ? If not what's the $.


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 549 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #3 - Aug 19^th, 2024 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Looks phony. Stamp looks wrong.
	« Last Edit: Aug 19^th, 2024 at 3:25pm by scharfe »

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1617 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #4 - Aug 19^th, 2024 at 5:07pm	Print Post
	Stamp looks identical to me.

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Steamtractor Participating Member Offline Posts: 45 Joined: Mar 27^th, 2015	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #5 - Aug 19^th, 2024 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	Sorry, I couldn’t get my phone camera to focus any better on it. I can say, it is identical markings to the example shown. They want $2500 for it seems like a lot for a 22 cal 414 no matter who touched it.


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 818 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #6 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	I have a Neidner Ballard, barrel stamped Neidner Rifle Corporation, Dowagiac, Michigan. I believe it is a very late gun. It shoots very well, will hold to MOA at 200 yards.


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 549 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #7 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 1:40am	Print Post
	What is stamped on the underside of the barrel? Your barrel was made 1930 - 1940. Underside should have a number between 745 - 1744. There should also be a CB, OB OR E.R. Stahl. How about some pics of your Ballard.


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 598 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #8 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 8:44am	Print Post
	"It was a practice in Dowagiac that the man doing the rifling would also put his name or initial next to the barrel number." -- Custom Gunmakers of the 20th Century, Michael Petrov Most, but not all, Malden barrels were numbered. They will be under the number 300. Unless it is AON, there shouldn't be any initials on a Malden made barrel. No one knows the whereabouts of Mr. Niedner's barrel book. Petrov was never able to get it. It was rumoured to be among Jake Simmons items. That is a big premium for Niedner's barrel on a Stevens 414, especially one with a very dirty bore. I would make sure that bore cleans up before spending any more time on the rifle. If the shop owner doesn't push a few patches down the bore, its a big risk and more like a red flag. When it comes to rifles with known barrel maker barrels, I put roughly 1/3 of the value on the barrel. (That was also Petrov's rule-of-thumb)
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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 598 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #9 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 9:08am	Print Post
	As for the A.O.N. stamp, there were a few different ones used. Here is a MALDEN MASS stamp on a case forming and bullet seating tool ...


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 719 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #10 - Jan 5^th, 2025 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	Steamtractor wrote on Aug 19^th, 2024 at 12:21pm: A pricey 414 for sure, is the Niedner barrel really a big deal? Yes, if it has a mint bore.


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 818 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Niedner 414 Stevens Reply #11 - Feb 2^nd, 2025 at 9:16am	Print Post
	The barrel on my Ballard is stamped 1540 CB.


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