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Barrel clamp or sled
Aug 3rd, 2024 at 3:33pm
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My Remington Rolling Block has a Green Mountain heavy, full octagon barrel. Chambering is .38-55. I've tried heavy gasket material and also deer hide (not together) as the buffer material between the barrel and the clamp. But the clamp slowly creeps forward with each shot. The deer hide works marginally better. One shooter today had just a strip of target paper in between the two surfaces.

Is there a better buffer material that I should try?

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Reply #1 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 3:39pm
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I use a piece of bicycle inner tube.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 4:22pm
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Put a little rosin on it.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 4:28pm
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That tire rubber should work better. Worth a try. I'll track some down. Thanks!

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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2024 at 10:15pm
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I get mine from the local bike shop; their used tubes just go into the trash, anyway.  Cut across the tube they make great bands to hold mould blocks together, too!  FCH
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 2:34pm
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For the many years that I have used a "sled" I have used strips of cardboard cut from cereal boxes. About an inch wide and just long enough to be grabbed by the sled clamps. Round or octagon barrels, works great. Had a physicist tell me one time that the grip between cardboard and the steel barrel is VERY slip resistant.
I cut a number of those strips and used each for a couple of shooting sessions then toss them for a new one.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 5:16pm
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Given, I just built mine, but I wrapped the contact points of my sled with thick electrical tape and it doesn't move
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 5:32pm
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Like Randy, I use cardboard. I cut mine from the back of notepaper pads…..its a little thicker than cereal box cardboard. I dont think you will be happy with the electrical tape. I’d be really surprised if it doesn't slip.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 6:41pm
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Plain old sandbag has worked extremely well for me over the years. 
Never bothered with a sled.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 6:54pm
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SBoomer wrote on Aug 4th, 2024 at 5:32pm:
Like Randy, I use cardboard. I cut mine from the back of notepaper pads…..its a little thicker than cereal box cardboard. I dont think you will be happy with the electrical tape. I’d be really surprised if it doesn't slip.


Guess I should clarify, from my days in construction, we had 2 grades of electrical tape: cheap tape, and expensive tape. Most people get the cheap stuff, which would not work. The stuff that is $6-$10 per roll is much thicker, and is almost rubber. That's the stuff I'm using. I've shot on the sled 4-5 times since building, and it hasn't moved yet. I may end up with the in er tube, but just used what I had on hand to start with
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Reply #10 - Aug 4th, 2024 at 9:12pm
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I've been threatening to give old fashioned cloth backed friction tape a whirl. You know, the gummy thick nasty stuff that our Gramps and Dads had in the bottom of their rusty tool boxes, the stuff they used to bind up a hole in the washing machine hose or a leaky radiator hose in the Ford in order to make it home from church. Slapdash attempts to find The Real McCoy haven't turned any up yet.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 9:47am
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gnoahhh wrote on Aug 4th, 2024 at 9:12pm:
I've been threatening to give old fashioned cloth backed friction tape a whirl. You know, the gummy thick nasty stuff that our Gramps and Dads had in the bottom of their rusty tool boxes, the stuff they used to bind up a hole in the washing machine hose or a leaky radiator hose in the Ford in order to make it home from church. Slapdash attempts to find The Real McCoy haven't turned any up yet.


You made me chuckle. Sadly replaced by Gorilla tape.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 9:50am
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Ill be darned…..its still made!
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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 10:10am
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Friction tape generally only sticks best to itself, unless you can get a wrap it may not hold well.

Hockey tape might be better choice.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 12:01pm
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SBoomer wrote on Aug 5th, 2024 at 9:50am:
Ill be darned…..its still made!
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Well I'll be. Thanks! I ordered a roll.
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2024 at 12:07pm
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My grandfather, dad, and I were all electricians, and dad used to wrap our baseball bats with 3M friction tape to give them a good grip. It certainly worked well, but at the end of a game we had to try to get the black gooey residue off our hands! 
I never found friction tape to not stick well to any smooth surface. But it's a real booger to get off, and get the black residue off when you want to remove it.
I use the bicycle inner tubes myself, and not just for front rests. I get different size old tubes from the local bike shop and cut bands from them to use for wood repairs. They work great to hold donor pieces into stocks while the glue dries, and much better than clamping odd shaped surfaces.

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Reply #16 - Aug 7th, 2024 at 4:05pm
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Nice looking pistol Smiley
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 7th, 2024 at 5:23pm
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I’ll just say Gaffers Tape. In the yacht business there are hundreds of tape jobs and a large percentage call for duct tape. Cheap duct tape should be illegal. As was said before cheap tape is just that ‘cheap’. No percentage in buying crap tape it costs you more in the long run in failures and clean up. Gaffers are movie set riggers that set up lighting, props, stands you name it  and you’ll spot them by having rolls of tape on their belts. 

Comes in all types colors and textures, low tack, high tack, low stretch high stretch, thick and thin but most will not leave adhesive residue which is a nightmare. I’ve always got four or five rolls in different colors, textures and thicknesses in my shop. If a tape will work then Gaffers tape will do it best. Even if you don’t need it for this project everybody should have a roll or two at the house or shop. 

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