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Barrel maker
Jun 24th, 2024 at 11:23am
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Have a barrel on a rifle that has no markings just a very unique contour.  Has anyone seen this contour on a barrel before or point me a direction to identify it.  Thanks in advance sportslube
  
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Re: Barrel maker
Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 11:38am
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Spiral fluted or twisted material? That is surely a unique configuration. What caliber is the rifle?


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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 11:57am
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I've seen hammer forged barrels with a pattern like that. 'East German' 5.45 was one of them. Saves a final turning operation. The taper, and the chamber, can be done in one pass.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 1:50pm
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ruger, Kidd, Bergara, Blaser, etc
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:25pm
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I think the first time I saw a barrel similar was back in the late 60s or early 70s and it definitely a European built rifle.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:14pm
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Steyr-Mannlichers had that barrel pattern and, yes, they were hammer forged. I had 2 Model Ls in 22-250 and I had one of them rebored to 250 Savage. Sweetest little deer rifle you ever saw.
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 4:57pm
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That's the name I was looking for. I always wondered if the hammered spiral matched the rifleing twist
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 5:12pm
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It is on a 22rf
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 5:27pm
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Here is a Ruger 22 barrel blank similar looking pattern but not as pronounced.
  
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Re: Barrel maker
Reply #9 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 8:20am
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I believe the Germans started hammer-forging barrels circa 1939 with most having polygonal rifling. The Germans like most producers using hammer-forged today turned the barrels after the forging operation so they are not so readily identified as such. It has been a long time but as I recall the rifling in Steyr's rifles from the 1970's-80's had conventional rifling.

The original 5R barrels on the Remington M24 rifles were cut-rifled by Mike Rock but there were delivery delays leading to Remington developing a hammer-forged 5R. It cost Remington a bunch of $$ to put the new barrels and rifles through First Article Testing again in accordance with the Army contract but in the end paid off with the barrel being produced in-house rather than be sourced from a vendor. As a side benefit, 5R barreled rifles became widely available in a variety of calibers.

I once stood outside the booth watching barrels being hammer-forged at Remington and it is an unbelievably loud operation!
  

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Reply #10 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 12:22pm
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A bit of drift here but in the late 80’s I was privy, actually standing nearby, listening to Warren Center of Thompson Center Arms discussing his good friend Bill Ruger asking if TC may be interested in purchasing one of two hammer forge barrel machines that he was negotiating to purchase in Germany. I think I heard the name Krupp mentioned a couple of times. Anyway Mr. Ruger couldn’t sell Warren Center on the idea, too big, too costly and they’d have to build another building and train a crew to run it. Anyway Ruger bought one and maybe both and shortly thereafter Ruger was making roll hammer forged barrels. I heard stories about moving this monster up state on light roads to Ruger’s factory in Newport, NH

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