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Does anyone thin rims?
Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:10pm
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Seems like I have seen posts here from someone with a lathe who does rim work. I have 40 or 50 .44-77 cases made from .348 that need to be thinned to .065 for the C. Sharps style chamber. Thanks if you can help!
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:19pm
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Correctly done, rims are thinned from the front to save the primer pocket  depth. 

Size the case to assure uniformity from bumps in shipping. 

Bore a soft faceplate to the rim size to half the depth of the finished rim. Set a live center in the tailstock to hold the case.   
Cut the face of the rim to .065.
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:58pm
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Bill,
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Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 11:57pm
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I usually thin from the front also, but I got a bunch of .43 Mauser cases to use in reworking to .44-77BN, and the rims were to thick. I tried seating a primer in one and the primer sat deeper also. So I chucked it in my lathe and took most of the headstamp off the base until primer was even. Then they chambered and the action closed fine. No more .43 Mauser markings too!
  

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Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:58am
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I usually thin from the rear and deepen the primer pocket if necessary.  It adds an extra step, but is much easier to cut the rim.  Most of the time when only taking a few thousandths off, and the primer pocket is still fine.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:56am
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Thanks fellas, and a special shout out for SBoomer.
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm
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If you don't have access to a lathe is there another way of thinning rims? I have to thin the rims on a batch of .35 WCF cases that will not chamber in my Win '95.
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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 10:12pm
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Spud,
I sent you a PM but then see you are from OZ. So instead of shipping in a sfrb I will hand carry them to you at your expense. Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 10th, 2024 at 6:39am
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You can always stage the rims down. I once had a hammer swage made for 32-20 to .310 cadet. But a reloading press die would work equally well.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 10th, 2024 at 6:47am
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No worries BushMike, thanks for the offer but my budget would only run to steerage on a tramp steamer  Smiley
I was thinking of a simple setup using a bench drill press and a split wood dowel to spin the cartridge while taking some brass off the rim with a file. I reckon that should work after some trial & error.
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Reply #10 - Jun 10th, 2024 at 7:23am
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That will work fine. If you can lower and lock your press spindle, you can get it close to the height of a triangular file sitting flat on a steel block. Work slow and it will do a respectable job. The block will give the file much more control.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 10th, 2024 at 7:31am
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Quick mock-up with half round file.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2024 at 9:15am
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SBoomer wrote on Jun 10th, 2024 at 7:23am:
That will work fine. If you can lower and lock your press spindle, you can get it close to the height of a triangular file sitting flat on a steel block. Work slow and it will do a respectable job. The block will give the file much more control.

Just to add to this....

Set it up with the case head flat on the block. Then shim the block up the amount you need to remove. Generally 2-3 sheets of paper under will work.

If you use a V block, set it up to support the rim against the pressure of the file. This can produce very good results.

Something else to consider would be if you might use large pistol primers, then take it off the face of the case head to compensate for the difference in cup height.
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 7:59am
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Thanks for those suggestions guys. Now have a workable setup using the drill press & have figured out how much I need to remove from the rims  Smiley Thanks again, Spud.
  
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Re: Does anyone thin rims?
Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 8:18am
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To further probe the issue of rim thinning, here's another question. Suppose one is working with "modern" .45-70 brass, ie: Starline, W-W, etc., and for one reason or another one had to reduce rim thickness by .015". Would facing off the rear by that amount (essentially removing the headstamp) and then re-cutting the primer pocket to standard depth result in the internal web thickness being reduced unsafely?

Reason I ask is I did that very trick when cobbling together .40-65 cases. I made around 20 of them but stopped before using them when I chose a different solution. (Long story, but that's it in a nutshell.) Have pondered if reducing said web thickness by .015" was risky business or not.
  
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