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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2626 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # May 30^th, 2024 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	The Stevens scope that Marlinguy recently bought shows 3125 after the 'No' . I have one marked 'No 368' I have assumed mine is a model 368. Is that correct or is that the serial number or is Vall's a model 3125? I am confused! Jack

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 684 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #1 - May 31^st, 2024 at 1:23am	Print Post
	Here are photos of the 20" scope I got on a Stevens 44 1/2 #45 gallery rifle. THe barrel was never cut for a front sight and the barrel address is on the flat clockwise from the top. The rifle serial number is in the 59xx range. How does this compare with your scope in terms of the length and the mounts? Note: I suspect the flat spring on the rear mount is a replacement - it's soldered in place. I don't know if the front spring is original or not. It's pinned to the base.
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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2032 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #2 - May 31^st, 2024 at 4:17am	Print Post
	J. Stevens Rifle Scopes
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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 886 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #3 - May 31^st, 2024 at 9:20am	Print Post
	A Stevens 368 is a 6X, a 388 is an 8X. Both made in the 1920's. The 388 is much less common. These are model numbers. I've never seen serial numbers on any Stevens scopes, I am not saying that it didn't happen.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15969 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #4 - May 31^st, 2024 at 9:54am	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:53pm: The Stevens scope that Marlinguy recently bought shows 3125 after the 'No' . I have one marked 'No 368' I have assumed mine is a model 368. Is that correct or is that the serial number or is Vall's a model 3125? I am confused! Jack The Stevens scope I bought from Smoke was built before WWI and is before catalogs listed them as specific model numbers. So that's a serial number on it, not a model number. The chart SchuetzenBob posted is not quite complete as a lot of scopes listed by model numbers came in much longer lengths than that chart shows. I have a 28" and 30" Stevens scopes that are both #368.

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Andover Arms Participating Member Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Dec 24^th, 2017	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #5 - May 31^st, 2024 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Sure shot wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 9:20am: A Stevens 368 is a 6X, a 388 is an 8X. Both made in the 1920's. The 388 is much less common. These are model numbers. I've never seen serial numbers on any Stevens scopes, I am not saying that it didn't happen. Agreed, these are "generally" the model number of the scope. But with all things Stevens, "generally, usually, most often" are the key words. I have a 24 inch marked "NO 781"...so who knows.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2626 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #6 - May 31^st, 2024 at 10:18am	Print Post
	All this is starting to make sense now. maybe. BTW my scope has clickless Winchester A5 mounts and a post reticle. I my first post on the forum was an inquiry about my scope. Jack

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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1083 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #7 - May 31^st, 2024 at 10:19am	Print Post
	In Tom Rowe’s American Rifles Sights book, there are a couple of scopes listed with similar numbers. Both in the 1400’s. I would be interested to no if the scope referenced above that Marlinguy now owns, if the front mount would fit a Standard Stevens dove tail.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15969 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #8 - May 31^st, 2024 at 11:26am	Print Post
	Dellet wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 10:19am: In Tom Rowe’s American Rifles Sights book, there are a couple of scopes listed with similar numbers. Both in the 1400’s. I would be interested to no if the scope referenced above that Marlinguy now owns, if the front mount would fit a Standard Stevens dove tail. Both mounts appear to be for target bases, not dovetail mounts. So to use this on a Stevens dovetail would require a base adapter. One of my Stevens scopes uses dovetail mounts at both ends and they are both 3/8" for my Ballard #3. The other is 3/8" front, but 5/16" rear. I have it on another Ballard and had to use an adapter 5/16" to 3/8" for the rear.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 684 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2024 at 11:39am	Print Post
	Schutzenbob wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 4:17am: J. Stevens Rifle Scopes Bob, do you have any idea which year(s) those ads were published?


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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2032 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2024 at 12:13pm	Print Post
	Bruce, The top page is from 1914, the lower page is from 1920.


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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1083 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2024 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 9:54am: bpjack wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:53pm: The Stevens scope that Marlinguy recently bought shows 3125 after the 'No' . I have one marked 'No 368' I have assumed mine is a model 368. Is that correct or is that the serial number or is Vall's a model 3125? I am confused! Jack The Stevens scope I bought from Smoke was built before WWI and is before catalogs listed them as specific model numbers. So that's a serial number on it, not a model number. The chart SchuetzenBob posted is not quite complete as a lot of scopes listed by model numbers came in much longer lengths than that chart shows. I have a 28" and 30" Stevens scopes that are both #368. I’m not sure, but I’m pretty sure that I have a Scope marked Stevens Arms and Tool, that has model numbers. Maybe more than one. If scopes were marked like rifles, 1916 was the change from Stevens arm and Tool, to Stevens Arms. Not sure I’ve paid enough attention to the scope markings to catch one marked “Stevens Arms”. Keep in mind Stevens also sold Malcolm scopes before selling Catarac scopes that I think were marked Stevens before buying the company. Is it looks me the serialized scopes were actually made before Stevens bought the company?


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 684 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #12 - May 31^st, 2024 at 1:40pm	Print Post
	Dellet wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 12:46pm: If scopes were marked like rifles, 1916 was the change from Stevens arm and Tool, to Stevens Arms. Not sure I’ve paid enough attention to the scope markings to catch one marked “Stevens Arms”. It's kind of hard to see in the scope I show above from my gallery rifle, but it says "Stevens Arms Company" If anyone is curious, let me know and I will pull it out and take clear pics of the markings.


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 886 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #13 - May 31^st, 2024 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Scopes made by Stevens when owned by Savage after 1920 would be marked Stevens Arms Co. Also any scopes made after 1916 would be marked Stevens Arms Company, unless they were using up old in stock tubes with the Stevens A&T marking.
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Dellet Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1083 Joined: May 19^th, 2017	Re: Stevens Scope Model# vs Serial # Reply #14 - May 31^st, 2024 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Smoke wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 1:40pm: Dellet wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 12:46pm: If scopes were marked like rifles, 1916 was the change from Stevens arm and Tool, to Stevens Arms. Not sure I’ve paid enough attention to the scope markings to catch one marked “Stevens Arms”. It's kind of hard to see in the scope I show above from my gallery rifle, but it says "Stevens Arms Company" If anyone is curious, let me know and I will pull it out and take clear pics of the markings. In bpjacks original post. Both scopes are marked J Stevens Arms & Tool. One with model number, one serialized. I would have considered both of those to be Pre1916 based on the roll mark change on the rifles is supposed to have changed then. Can’t remember but I think the first dedicated scope catalog was 1901 or 03, so it’s kind of a small window.


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