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3D printed bullets for oddball antiques
Feb 8th, 2024 at 10:16am
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I know nothing about 3D printing, but I've seen information about it online. Has anybody tried it?  Im not thinking large quantities, but 10 or 20 to try out an oddball cartridge.

What brought me to this is an 1860s Marlin vest pocket pistol in .30 rimfire I'm working with. I've made 5 reloadable rimfire cases, but the odd bullet size is a challenge. To date, I've lopped 3/4 of the length off a 7mm Mauser bullet. It works, but is not ideal. I dont want to spend $100 plus on a custom mold. I wont be shooting it that much. But the thought of a 3D printed heel bullet is appealing. It would be extremely light, but that's ok for a little plinking with this 150 year old pistol.

Has anybody done this? Online videos show people shooting them in modern guns, so they should work for plinking in old timers too. 

Does anyone have a 3D printer and want to try?

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Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 11:22am
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For a dozen shots or so I would just fire up the Unimat and make them from those 7mm bullets. By the time you work up the 3D you could be done and shooting. I don't know how well a printed polymer bullet would shoot, and you certainly can't print lead.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 11:34am
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A polymer bullet will not give the required resistance for the
powder to burn decently. 
Another way to be able to shoot the 30 rimfire pistol would be
to get some round balls. Seems to me that a number 1 or 2 buckshot would work. Or maybe there is a suitable Lee round ball or buckshot mold. They are not expensive. 
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Reply #3 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 12:14pm
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Really like your creativity on the cases and as you pointed out"they all fired"!



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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 12:33pm
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.30 rimfire bullet size is around .285" plus or minus a little depending on the source. There are no commonly available round balls or ball molds of this size. It may be a lot of work to design a 3D bullet, I have no experience with it. The .30 rimfire is my current project, but I also deal with other oddball heel bullet cartridges, so the technology is interesting.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 8:15pm
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Jefftannermolds.com
Round ball molds in .001 increments

They work great. Have a .260, .309, .595, .700
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 9:13pm
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moodyholler wrote on Feb 8th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
Jefftannermolds.com
Round ball molds in .001 increments

They work great. Have a .260, .309, .595, .700


Thanks, good to know there is another option.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2024 at 11:12pm
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Steve,
For what it's worth, we've been experimenting with a new 3D printer and the concept for making different projectiles isn't out of the realm.  The options for different filament material is quite bizarre, the costs aren't really that much either.  For us it's all about the time, never enough. 
On another note, you could easily go another route.  Make a simple mold yourself and go the hot glue method... I've used this material in a Lee mold for a bullet in a 45-70 for some pest control, worked suprising well... lube can be as simple as bullets rolled in graphite.
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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 4:35am
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Plastic don't shoot for crap. I was once looking for a way to conduct low-resource sustainment training for snipers using the German "Blue Plastic" they use for training in forest areas. By low-resource I mean no range, no safety personnel. Our barracks typically had very long attic areas with over 90 linear feet of possible shooting lanes. Because of the distance my intent was to conduct iron sight training with the Redfield sights on the M24 rifles. I set targets up at 25yds and fired over 100 rounds in 3-round groups. Grouping was dismal, typically two out of three would land close together while the third shot would go somewhere else. The flyer could be any one of the three shots and unpredicable. I gave up as I did not see any benefit to using the blue plastic since feedback to the sniper was in my mind of little value.
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 5:24am
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I hadn't thought of hot glue as a bullet. I don't know how to make a mold, but perhaps I could make a cylindrical mold of some sort. I'll have to think about that. I wouldnt expect much in the way of accuracy. But at card table range, they might be fine for the little vest pocket pistol.

On facebook I run an "Obsolete Rimfire and Heel Bullet" discussion group where I posed the same question. One of the guys who apparently does 3D printing for a living has offered to design and print some. I gave him the specs last night. So we'll see how it goes. In the interim, I made 5 bullets by cutting down 7mm mauser slugs.
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 6:33am
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Hot glue, sounds like trouble waiting to happen. I can envision a barrel loaded up with hot glue that melted on firing.
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 9:04am
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My application with glue bullets was targets of flying rats roosting in tin buildings and their excrement was causing an OSHA violation.  Most distances were 18 to 22 feet.  A glue bullet backed by 3 grains of bullseye in a 45-70 case using Eastern Euro descent primers sent down the pipe of an early NA rolling block, proved very effective at liberating the tin sheds of this vermin.  No damage to the roof tin and just when the sport was becoming entertaining the targets moved on to be the next company's problem.   
So Steve, what I was getting at, picking up a cheaper Lee mold and modifying it to fit your application isn't out of your realm.  Knock the pins out to liberate the mold from the handles, chuck it up in a lathe, mill or drill press, and modify it slightly to fit, reassemble and go.
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Reply #12 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 9:15am
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A couple of tips I'll pass along, I wasn't making a lot of these but I was getting best results by filling the mold, then using my patented "black rubber forend bands"  Wink to hold the mold handles together, set the filled molds in the freezer for 5 minutes and they'd fall out, on to the next.  A simple wipe down with powdered graphit and they were ready to go.
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Re: 3D printed bullets for oddball antiques
Reply #13 - Feb 9th, 2024 at 9:34am
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Another perspective: Consider the amount of time spent chasing spurious solutions and apply a minimal dollar figure to that time and then compare that to the $100 give or take that it would cost to have Tom at Accurate cut you a mold to cast a heeled bullet. I know, applying dollar figures to hours spent pursuing our hobby is a frightening concept, not for the feint of heart, but is a valid concept for making efficient use of those hours. Five or six hours of screwing around with this-and-that at $X/hour of what your time's worth to you, and that custom 80gr. .30 heeled bullet mold starts to look like a good idea.
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2024 at 10:37am
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There might be a technique adjustment, but a lathe might be able to turn a batch of simple lead bullets, finished up with some tumble lube?
  
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