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Lyman Targetspot
Nov 27th, 2023 at 2:30pm
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I like old scopes, and always looking for odd ones, or ones made early, or by small makers. Yesterday at our OAC monthly collector gun show I heard a friend who has a table behind me ask another friend if he was interested in an old target scope. Of course my ears perked up, and I turned around to maybe see what I was missing out on!
I couldn't see what they were looking at, but I saw a plain brown cardboard scope box, which intrigued me. As they talked the other friend passed on the scope, and I asked if I could look at it, and not step on any toes, or be butting in. Both fellas were fine with it, so I was handed the scope box. Inside was a brand new Lyman Targetspot that appeared to have either never been used, or used very little. It had the Pope rail on the bottom of the tube, which also indicated a very early scope; and the box end label said Targetspot, not Junior or Super Targetspot.
The label read 10x, and the price was $60, with application showing "Lo W 52" on it. Guessing that might mean a Winchester Winder Musket or a 52? 
No serial number at all on it, which further indicates a very early Lyman. I think this may be a first year Lyman Targetspot. The only Lyman I've ever seen in a plain brown cardboard box, as all I've owned were orange cardboard boxes with the reinforced metal corners. 
The box is missing the drill bit, taps, bases, and instructions, but otherwise a pretty nice old scope and box.

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Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 4:14pm
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Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:06pm
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Did you buy it? Priced well?
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:34pm
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Otony wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Did you buy it? Priced well?


Yes, I did buy it. Price was what I'd expect to pay for any 10x Junior or Super Targetspot without a box, more wear, and newer. So sure wasn't going to argue, or make a lower offer.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:18pm
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I'm guessing the rear sliding mount is a 4-point Winchester style scope mount rather than the newer 3 point and should have the  Winchester style pin base attachment mount rather than the standard or posa ? That is the way my pre-war 8X Targetspot is set up. I was told mine dates 1936-1939. Steve Earle standard barrel mounts work with it.
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Reply #5 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 9:52pm
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Flatlander wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
I'm guessing the rear sliding mount is a 4-point Winchester style scope mount rather than the newer 3 point and should have the  Winchester style pin base attachment mount rather than the standard or posa ? That is the way my pre-war 8X Targetspot is set up. I was told mine dates 1936-1939. Steve Earle standard barrel mounts work with it.
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Yes it's a 4 point rear mount, and Pope rib under the tube.
I was told that when the Super and Junior Targetspots came out in 1937 there were no more Targetspots made. So 1934-1936 were the only years.
The rings are steel and use standard single point mounting pin.
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 10:52pm
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marlinguy wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Flatlander wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
I'm guessing the rear sliding mount is a 4-point Winchester style scope mount rather than the newer 3 point and should have the  Winchester style pin base attachment mount rather than the standard or posa ? That is the way my pre-war 8X Targetspot is set up. I was told mine dates 1936-1939. Steve Earle standard barrel mounts work with it.
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Yes it's a 4 point rear mount, and Pope rib under the tube.
I was told that when the Super and Junior Targetspots came out in 1937 there were no more Targetspots made. So 1934-1936 were the only years.
The rings are steel and use standard single point mounting pin.


All three were available at one time in their lineup.
My 10x Targetspot is a later with top rib.ive never seen one like yours! Cool really early one!

  
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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2023 at 11:19pm
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Mine is also like CBAshooters and is a 10x with a 3 point mount..  There is a hand struck serial number of 3722.
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 1:43pm
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According to Lyman, the Targetspot was discontinued in 1948. This from their 1878-1978 Centennial Journal.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 2:16pm
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As an aside, the Super-Targetspot was introduced in 1937, and I have been told, and have owned a number of Targetspot scopes that were converted at the factory to Super-Targetspots of higher power, it seems predominately 15X judging from those I have observed or owned. This would make sense, as it was the highest power available when introduced. If the numbers are correct, it could be eleven years or more  this service was offered. I was "told" that this service was performed free of charge for an unknown period of time. If the history of Lyman is of interest to anyone, the 1978 publication is well worth having. They are available on the used book market fairly often, at reasonable prices. I am not aware if they were offered hardbound as have not come across one, but had my copy hardbound as I so frequently use it.
  

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Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 3:36pm
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What is the actual title of the Lyman history publication

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Reply #11 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 7:41pm
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Lyman Centennial Journal 1878-1978, C. Kenneth Ramage editor     Printed by Lyman publications. Sorry, I should have included the information!
  

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Reply #12 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 8:10pm
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I totally forgot about the 100th Anniversary Lyman book, and I have one on my book shelves! Guess I'll have to give it a look and see if it has any references or old ads printed that might reveal the prices for certain years?
Haven't gotten any response from Lyman Products yet, and who knows when or if I will?
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 28th, 2023 at 11:05pm
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In checking Targetspot scopes I have or have had, the lowest serial number is 232. It has the three point rear mount, and top rib, and at some time in it's life was converted to a 15x Super Targetspot. The Lyman 5A, which was purchased from Winchester, was manufactured with a bottom rib by Lyman. When Lyman flipped it up top I have not been able to pinpoint. I will read more in the Rifleman from that time period to see if anything turns up. I can also check cost to possibly help date your's marlinguy.
  

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Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2023 at 8:08pm
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In a 1936 Stoeger's Shooters Bible, the Lyman Targetspot was listed at $60 for either the 8x or10x.
  

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