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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #15 - Nov 30^th, 2023 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	In 1941 the change to 3 point rear mount had been made, but the price still $60.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17439 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #16 - Nov 30^th, 2023 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	rkba2nd wrote on Nov 30^th, 2023 at 8:08pm: In a 1936 Stoeger's Shooters Bible, the Lyman Targetspot was listed at $60 for either the 8x or10x. Thanks. Mine is a 4 point mount, so guessing it is still pretty early. I've read here and there that some didn't get a serial number, but no mention of whether that was early, or a random mistake.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #17 - Dec 1^st, 2023 at 12:00am	Print Post
	When the Super Targetspot appeared in 1937, the change to 3 point rear mount, top rib, and increase in power to 15 had taken place. The earliest reference I have is a 1938 advertisement, and all the above changes were visually evident. I will continue to snoop, but am close to the end of my need to know.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #18 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	I just found the first (1937) reference to a special price to remodel your Targetspot to a Super Targetspot. Not free as I had heard. No mention of the cost. This being the year the Super was introduced, there may have been a change at a later date, though doubtful.

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Oldbee Full Member Offline Posts: 129 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #19 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	Is there a way to track mfg. date by the serial numbers?

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #20 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm	Print Post
	If there is, I am not aware of it. I might talk to Lyman to see if they have kept records of serial numbers and dates, and whether each model was numbered separately. It has been a long time since Lyman produced scopes, the Targetspots in particular, and when the family was no longer affiliated, interest in history of the company most likely lost importance. Optics have always held my interest, so I will continue to see what I can find. There were a few others here in the past, who were very knowledgeable, but have not been aware of any posts by them, most noteably Redsetter. I may not have his screen name right, but close, and would love to hear from him.

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Flatlander Oldtimer Offline Posts: 665 Location: Warm Arizona Joined: Apr 24^th, 2004	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #21 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 10:29pm	Print Post
	I seem to remember years ago Parsons bought all remaining parts from Lyman and he was given all the available company records. I cannot verify that but maybe a call to his son would clear up? Flatlander

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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1301 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #22 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 10:54pm	Print Post
	rkba2nd wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm: If there is, I am not aware of it. I might talk to Lyman to see if they have kept records of serial numbers and dates, and whether each model was numbered separately. It has been a long time since Lyman produced scopes, the Targetspots in particular, and when the family was no longer affiliated, interest in history of the company most likely lost importance. Optics have always held my interest, so I will continue to see what I can find. There were a few others here in the past, who were very knowledgeable, but have not been aware of any posts by them, most noteably Redsetter. I may not have his screen name right, but close, and would love to hear from him. Redsetter was very knowledgeable in many areas and had quite a collection of original catalogs. He worried about what would happen to them once he was gone. His last post here was on April 11, 2019. Someone (maybe a friend or family member?) was online on October 27, 2021. I suspect he is no longer with us. He, like many others, will be missed.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #23 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 11:42pm	Print Post
	I am saddened if that is true. Our simple common bond was the use of LPS1 as a lubricant and rust preventer, and similar inquisitive interests. Thanks for posting Jerry.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #24 - Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 11:47pm	Print Post
	flatlander I do recall that Parsons had in deed purchased the remaining parts inventory from Lyman, but not that he aquired the records. I will check with his son in that regard. Thanks for pointing that out.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #25 - Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 12:38am	Print Post
	In 1939 the cost to provide the optical properties of the Super Targetspot at the factory to your Targetspot scope was $15 in 10, 12, and 15X. Fairly neighborly if you asked me. .

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7546 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #26 - Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 4:19am	Print Post
	In 1939, $15 was a bit of money. My dad bought a new Ford that year for, I think $625

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1608 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #27 - Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 10:48am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 4:19am: In 1939, $15 was a bit of money. My dad bought a new Ford that year for, I think $625 That 1939 $15 cost would be about $350 to service the scope today.


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2059 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #28 - Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 11:40am	Print Post
	Geez, what a bunch of whiners. A new Super Targetspot was $75, so $15 dollars seems pretty reasonable to me, and judging by the numbers with the conversion, was to many at the time. The work involved was considerable. Replacing lenses alone would involve a fair amount of work. It would be interesting to know what the lenses from Bausch and Lomb cost. Power increase from 8 0r 10 to 15 was substantial. How much do you spend on your hobby? Now my turn to quit whining.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17439 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Lyman Targetspot Reply #29 - Dec 3^rd, 2023 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	Flatlander wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2023 at 10:29pm: I seem to remember years ago Parsons bought all remaining parts from Lyman and he was given all the available company records. I cannot verify that but maybe a call to his son would clear up? Flatlander The records were still at Lyman not that long ago, and they would answer requests from folks wanting to know when their scope serial number dated to. My request for any info from Lyman has gone unanswered, so either they don't do this anymore, or just can't be bothered. There is a guy who goes by "see-win" who was on Rimfire Central forum and had the shop records he'd purchased. Maybe from the Parsons family? He was charging $25 for a letter, but a few years ago he quit stating every time he opened the record books another page cracked or tore from becoming old and brittle, and he wouldn't continue the service until he could digitize all the pages to computer and not have to open the record books again. I'm looking for an instruction sheet for this old scope, just to have it in the box. I find lots of ads, and later Super or Junior sheets, but so far not a Targetspot sheet.

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