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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Jul 9^th, 2023 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	While browsing a local gun shop last week I spied a Remington #3 Hepburn in the rack. Nice rifle, I may up my offer this week! Anyway, it had a peculiar mid range tang sight on it. The frame bottom was cut in a V shape that set in a V cut into the bottom part of the frame. It had adjustment screws into the sides of bottom piece at a 90 degree angle. The screws were used to adjust the windage by moving the upper part of the frame left or right. It was to dark in the shop to get a very good look at the sight. I do not know if it was marked as to Mfg, or had any other info on it. Does anyone have an idea it? Thanks!

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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 693 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #1 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	Italian repro


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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #2 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	Could be, but the sight looked as old as the rifle!

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #3 - Jul 10^th, 2023 at 10:46am	Print Post
	I would agree with moodyholler, obviously not capable of easy windage adjustment. I have a couple of those if it's the same one, is it universal fit?

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11418 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #4 - Jul 10^th, 2023 at 1:29pm	Print Post
	I don't recall ever seeing an Italian tang sight that was an exact reproduction of an old sight. Does this sight look like your sight? Maybe someone used WD40 on your sight and it rusted. Maybe that's why it looks old.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15990 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #5 - Jul 10^th, 2023 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	It sure sounds like the sight Westerner shows in his reply, and I think Track of the Wolf sells them for like $79? A poor setup to tilt the staff for windage as elevation changes also move the point of impact to the side the staff is tilted towards as you adjust it up or away as you adjust it down. They could easily look old by now as these have been sold for a couple decades. Or somebody aged it to make it appear older.

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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1116 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #6 - Jul 10^th, 2023 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Jul 10^th, 2023 at 3:29pm: A poor setup to tilt the staff for windage as elevation changes also move the point of impact to the side the staff is tilted towards as you adjust it up or away as you adjust it down. The two opposing screws are to enable the vertical line of the sight to be adjusted since many rifle tangs are not perpendicular fron left to right in relation to the vertical line of the rifle, often the sight is leaning to one side or the other. Once the staff is adjusted to vertical, windage can be adjusted by loosening the eye cup and then pushing the block the eye cup screws into either left or right and then re-tightening to hold it in place. Not precision but it can work.

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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #7 - Jul 10^th, 2023 at 8:16pm	Print Post
	Westerner, no it does not look like that sight. I will have to visit the shop again and ask if I can take a closer look, and take a pic of the sight. I just googled "pics of tang sights" and looked at over a 100 of them with no luck! Thanks guys!

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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	OK, my memory is failing. The frame does not sit in a V notch. It is set up as a U with the two adjusting screws 90 degrees on the sides. I have seen this a picture of this sight somewhere. I have a pic if I can get it down loaded.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15990 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	Never seen one like that? It appears to be color cased, and is a simple graduated peep, not a vernier. I think it's likely custom built by some gunsmith, and not a factory Remington tang sight. The base is definitely not like anything Rem. made.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11418 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 3:12pm	Print Post
	Not a bad looking sight.

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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #11 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	Would anyone want to venture a guess as to whether this sight adds to the value of the rifle? Thanks

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 686 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #12 - Jul 13^th, 2023 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	I'd say it makes the gun moderately more valuable. Nice looking sight, a lot better than the barrel sight. If you plan to shoot the gun, maybe add $75?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15990 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2023 at 11:19am	Print Post
	I'd agree it adds some value, but wouldn't put the added value very high. I'd look at the price of the Hepburn, and plan to replace the tang sight. Then consider what I might get selling this one. If it was sold separately I doubt you'd get much; maybe $50-$60 for it.

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Oldbee Junior Member Offline Posts: 84 Location: Foot Hills of the Adirondacks Joined: Sep 26^th, 2021	Re: Odd tang sight on a Rem Hepburn. Reply #14 - Jul 15^th, 2023 at 8:03am	Print Post
	Well, I hate to admit it but I do not believe I will be the next owner of this rifle. We are far apart on the price! He really does not know what the rifle is. The tag is marked Remington Ballard, 50 Sharps. The bbl is marked 40. 2 1/2. It is in nice original condition but the bore is shot. I like to shoot my rifles, so it would have to be lined, more cost!

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