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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	German Rifle Action Type? May 7^th, 2023 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	Does anyone know this action? Proofed in 1928. Caliber 30-30. Thanks


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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #1 - May 7^th, 2023 at 6:42pm	Print Post
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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2023 at 6:43pm	Print Post
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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2023 at 6:43pm	Print Post
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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #4 - May 7^th, 2023 at 6:44pm	Print Post
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moodyholler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 698 Location: Blue Ridge Joined: Oct 11^th, 2005	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2023 at 6:47pm	Print Post
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JägerWilhelm Full Member Offline ASSRA #8407 Posts: 206 Location: Central Pennsylvania Joined: Sep 13^th, 2015	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #6 - May 7^th, 2023 at 8:05pm	Print Post
	It's a stalking rifle and in 8.15x46R, and for lead bullets. According to the markings.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 710 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2023 at 8:44pm	Print Post
	Or, if a .30-30 drops into the chamber, perhaps .32 Win Spl? A popular, if misplaced, way to get ammo for it in the US, back in the day...


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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 905 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #8 - May 9^th, 2023 at 10:48am	Print Post
	Post the photos on GGCA forum. I have 2 Schuetzen rifles that were rechambered, one in 32 Winchester Special the other in 303. The 303 shoots very well the other not so much. Mike


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JägerWilhelm Full Member Offline ASSRA #8407 Posts: 206 Location: Central Pennsylvania Joined: Sep 13^th, 2015	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #9 - May 9^th, 2023 at 11:00am	Print Post
	Mike, how would you determine if that rifle was rechambered from those photos? As you know, those are the original German markings. Who on the GGCA forum would know?

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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 905 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #10 - May 9^th, 2023 at 11:05am	Print Post
	JägerWilhelm wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 11:00am: Mike, how would you determine if that rifle was rechambered from those photos? As you know, those are the original German markings. Who on the GGCA forum would know? Axel might know the system, a chamber cast would be the way to determine the rechamber. Mike


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JägerWilhelm Full Member Offline ASSRA #8407 Posts: 206 Location: Central Pennsylvania Joined: Sep 13^th, 2015	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #11 - May 9^th, 2023 at 11:07am	Print Post
	Chambering brass casings for those calibers is the best way to know. Not sure about all the system variations on Stalking rifles. I shoot these 2 (8.15x46R). I have never yet encountered a rechambered example.
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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 346 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #12 - May 9^th, 2023 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	Moody I have a similar stalking rifle which isn't exactly the same as yours but maybe a cousin. I don't know the name of the action type but would second posting a photo on the GGCA forum. I'd be interested in whether your rifle action has any or all of the following features, that are on my action Hand detachable inner action frame? Rotating breechblock on closure like the Stevens? Substantial inner frame that looks a little like the ballard but heavier? Thanks, Otto


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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 905 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #13 - May 9^th, 2023 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Close, but no cigar. I have had this rifle for 30 or so years, never fired it. Proofed in 1906. I have heard it refered to as System Nimrod, but I don't think that is correct. Mike


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JägerWilhelm Full Member Offline ASSRA #8407 Posts: 206 Location: Central Pennsylvania Joined: Sep 13^th, 2015	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #14 - May 9^th, 2023 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	4 different rifles, 4 different action types. There are many more....

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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 346 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #15 - May 9^th, 2023 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Jager We know that Moody's rifle was rechambered because the proof marks show that it was originally a 8.15X46R and we are told that a 30-30 will chamber. A 30-30 won't chamber in a 8.15X46R chamber without sizing. It was also probably rechambered outside of Germany, as it hasn't undergone a re-proof and probably in 32 Win Sp as this is the most commonly encountered rechambering for the 8.15X46R Moody It's probably not chambered for the 30-30, as the .308" bullets would rattle down the bore. A chamber cast is the best way to see what you have. You could also fire form a 30-30 case and it wouldn't be a surprise, if it looked like a 32 Win Sp. I think that the 32 Win. Sp is the next size up, to clean up a bad 8.15X46R chamber. Yamoon Your stalking rifle looks like a true falling block. Yes? My rifle is closer to a tilting block. Maybe Moody will tell us if the block in his rifle tilts or is a true falling block. Otto


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85lc Junior Member Offline Posts: 50 Location: Georgia Joined: Jun 28^th, 2018	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #16 - May 11^th, 2023 at 10:05am	Print Post
	JägerWilhelm wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:40pm: 4 different rifles, 4 different action types. There are many more.... Good comment about the variety of actions built by German and Austrian gun makers. Mike is correct that the rifle could have been rechambered. I have seen several rifles that were rechambered from 8x46R. A chamber cast is the easiest was to check & verify the current chamber cartridge. All, some very nice looking rifles with interesting actions.

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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #17 - May 13^th, 2023 at 7:36am	Print Post
	This is a Nimrod. Fred


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yamoon Oldtimer Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 905 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #18 - May 13^th, 2023 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	Fred Boulton wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 7:36am: This is a Nimrod. Fred Fred Is the right side wall cut down for easy loading? Mike


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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #19 - May 14^th, 2023 at 11:52am	Print Post
	No. Fred


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SchwarzStock Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1205 Location: SchwarzWald Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2010	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #20 - May 20^th, 2023 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	There were a number of actions made like this targeted at the custom makers. I don't think there is a specific maker they can be ascribed to.

	If your rifle is not in 7.62 and you can't hit what you are aiming at with de-linked machinegun ammo you are a pretender.
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11512 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: German Rifle Action Type? Reply #21 - May 21^st, 2023 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	Someone designed it and someone manufactured it. Or like others manufactured by a number of makers or manufacturers.

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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