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Feb 27th, 2023 at 12:38pm
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This past weekend I attended the NGD show in Louisville and picked up a Stevens model 26 1/2 Crack Shot .22 smooth bore.  This example is a late production model that has the pistol grip and larger forend and is Savage marked.  The barrel also shows a 1920 patent date, which is a surprise to me.

My reading tells me that during WW2 the war production board allowed Stevens to assemble this model out of parts on hand.

Here's the issue and my question.  The frame is marked model 26, but the barrel is a smooth bore with bead front sight and no rear sight.  It does not look like someone has married a smooth bore barrel to a mod. 26 receiver, but the receiver should be marked 26 1/2.  The little gun looks honest.  I have disassembled it, and everything under the wood line seems to look like it belongs together.

My question is: Do you think that Stevens did this just to use up the parts on hand as they were permitted to or have I bought someone's project?
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Reply #1 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 8:57pm
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I tend to agree with you. If anything they were consistent in their inconsistency. The later 26’s are scarce. It’s always interesting trying to figure out what Stevens did back in the day.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2023 at 12:53pm
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slumlord44 wrote on Feb 27th, 2023 at 8:57pm:
I tend to agree with you. If anything they were consistent in their inconsistency. The later 26’s are scarce. It’s always interesting trying to figure out what Stevens did back in the day.


I had a Stevens back when I was a Kid in the mid 50's that was a smooth bore and looked like a .22 shot gun. I cant remember the model number but when I bought it used at a Gamble Store. Ray told me it was a barn gun for shooting Pigins with putting holes through the roof using .22 shot shells or .22 lead dust shells.
It did this job very well with .22 shot shells.  Cheesy
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:42pm
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I'm still trying to figure out how I got a mis-matched receiver with smooth bore barrel.  It's a 26 1/2 barrel and a 26 marked receiver, and it looks like it has been this way since birth.  I really think it came from the factory this way, but is that possible?   Undecided
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 1st, 2023 at 10:59pm
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As I said, I think it could be factory. It also could have had the barrel switched at some time in its past. I’d get some shot shells and shoot it.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 2nd, 2023 at 4:11am
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slumlord44 wrote on Mar 1st, 2023 at 10:59pm:
As I said, I think it could be factory. It also could have had the barrel switched at some time in its past. I’d get some shot shells and shoot it.

I agree.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 2nd, 2023 at 10:24am
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If it is 1920 or later. it should have matching inspector stamps on the barrel & receiver. These are a letter, a number or a symbol in a circle. They should match except for one combination used in the mid 1920's - a P in a circle on the barrel and an I in a circle on the receiver. You can sometimes roughly get a date of manufacture from the inspector stamps. These should be on the left side, one near the rear of the barrel and one near the front of the receiver but they can vary.

Savage acquired Stevens in 1920 and this is when there were changes. A lot of Stevens guns changed from hard rubber buttplates to steel and from casehardened receivers to blued. Also, about 1828 Savage started adding a new logo to them - SVG
  
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Re: question for Stevens boy's rifle collectors?
Reply #7 - Mar 2nd, 2023 at 4:01pm
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I guess my question to the OP is how long is your barrel, and is the frame case hardened? I looked through my reprint and original Stevens catalogs to refresh my memory, so I can give you an answer or maybe give you more questions? The early Crackshot 26’s and 26 1/2’s have 18” barrels. In the early 1920’s to around 1930 the barrels are 20” long. From 1932 or 1933 to the end of production the barrels are 22” long. Your little 26 1/2 should have a 22” barrel. In all of the catalogs I have, listed blued frames until 1939 which have color hardened frames. The last version of the Crackshot 26 and 26 1/2 that have the pistol grip stock and large forearm, first appears in the 1939 catalog. I don’t have a 1938 catalog to make sure of this. I believe every version early to late had the blued steel butt plate.
I would agree that the last version of the Crackshot 26 with the pistol grip stock is scarce, making the shotgun 26 1/2 even more scarce to find.
My late model 26 has the SVG marking but no proof or inspector marks. It also has the 1913 patent date, not 1920. 
The bottom picture is my early model 26 with the 18” barrel.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 2nd, 2023 at 5:56pm
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This model has a 22" barrel and has a case hardened receiver, steel butt plate, and only has one inspector stamp and that is on the barrel there isn't one on the receiver.  As I mentioned earlier, the barrel on this one has a 1920 patent date.

I would be very happy with my purchase even though I paid a pretty penny for it, but don't like mix masters.  I knew at the time I bought it that the models didn't match, but it lust looks too nice.  Over 90% blue and strong case colors left.  But as someone mentioned, these late models are hard to find, and this one filled a hole in my collection.

I suppose I'll never find a satisfactory answer for this one, and in time I'll accept it for what it is, but I think this anomaly hurts its value as a collectible piece.   

Thank you all for your input.  You're a very knowledgeable bunch of guys.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 2nd, 2023 at 7:43pm
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I looked through some catalogs, The No 26 Crackshot is first listed in Catalog #54 which does not have a date but is the last pre-WWI catalog - blued frame, 18" barrel, steel buttplate.

1920 dated pocket catalog is the same.

I have two pocket catalogs without a date but both have the same price listed dated May 8, 1923, one lists the barrel as 18" the other as 20", the price lists are a loose insert, so I can't be sure they are original to the catalogs. These two catalogs also have differences for other models, the Visible loader lists a rubber buttplate in one and a steel in the other, both list blued frame.

Catalog #57 with a Jan 3, 1927, price list still has it as a 20" barrel.

Wholesale catalogs dated Jan 3, 1928 and Jan3, 1929 list a 22" barrel.

Catalog #61 with a Aug 15, 1935 price list still lists 22" barrel and blued finish.

Wholesale and retail price lists dated March 5, 1936 (these are actually soft cover catalogs) list a casehardened frame, still straight grip. - Same Jan 3 1938.

Wholesale Price List, Jan 3, 1939 lists a pistol grip. 

Price lists for catalog #41, June 16, 1941 still has the Crackshot and Jan 1, 1942 does not.

I looked though Stevens patents, I can find the April 22, 1913 patent - (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) It expired in 1930.

I cannot find a 1920 patent that looks like it would apply to a Crackshot, what is the complete date?
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Re: question for Stevens boy's rifle collectors?
Reply #10 - Mar 3rd, 2023 at 8:57am
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April 27, 1920 is what is stamped on the barrel.  And again, this has the 22" barrel and case hardened receiver.
  
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Re: question for Stevens boy's rifle collectors?
Reply #11 - Mar 3rd, 2023 at 10:52am
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The only Stevens patents I can find for that date are not for that rifle, there are three; two are for sights and one is for the No 10 Target Pistol (and one is for the sight for that). I wonder if they got the wrong stamp and used the one for the pistol. The patent for the rifle was expired by the tile your barrel was made.

The three patents are - US1338381A, US1338382A, and US1338183A. 

These are the only three patents from all of 1920 assigned to Stevens Arms. All US patents granted in a week would get assigned on the same day, and there could be a lot, over 700 came up with that date.
  
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Re: question for Stevens boy's rifle collectors?
Reply #12 - Mar 3rd, 2023 at 7:22pm
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It seems I just can't ever buy anything simple.  And so it appears this one may be an unsolvable mystery.
  
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Re: question for Stevens boy's rifle collectors?
Reply #13 - Mar 4th, 2023 at 11:38pm
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That’s what makes collecting Stevens  collecting fun and interesting.
  
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