For those who are interested, there is a comprehensive article on the history of the "Rowland Group" in the July/August 2012 ASSRA journal.

C. W. Rowland shot his famous .722" 10-shot, 200 yard group on May 16, 1901.  That small group stood for 103 years until Jim Borton turned-in a .711" group on October 11, 2014 while visiting John Louis at the Modesto Rifle Club. Jim shot a Miller rifle chambered in .32 Miller Short.

Dale Reynolds subsequently shot a .655" group at the 2008 Fall match at Etna Green with a custom rifle chambered in .32-30 Remington..

I subsequently shot a .577" group at Modesto on Feb12, 2012 with a CPA rifle chambered in .32-20 CPA. 

Attached is a copy of Jim and John at MRC the day Jim shot his small group.

JackHughs

S99VG wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 10:00am:


I have a barrel for my CPA in 32-20 with a 1/12 twist and a groove diameter of .3083.

Load is 8 grains of #9 and the CCI 400 primer with bullets 165 to 200 grains,  MV 1250 to 1300 fps.  Standard deviation of MV around 7.   The G1 BC measures around .330.

I have a friend with the same set up and we enjoy shooting it long range, out to 1000 yards if the conditions are favorable for seeing the bullet impacts.  Mostly 500 yards plus.

This is just for fun and we like the lack of recoil.

A number of years ago at Quigley before the match the conditions were good, no wind and dry, so with a couple of friends I worked down the firing line.  Fired a few shots to get a sight setting then hit the target three times in a row.   Did this with all the targets including the 805 yard buffalo.  Bullet was 170 grains.

As I said, this was witih very good conditions and I was suprised at how well it shot.

Interesting that you did this. I was tempted to do this, I had a .30 caliber tapered 185 grain Barry Darr mold (from SAECO) when I was first looking at the .32-20 CPA chambering. But I went with the .32 caliber barrel due to tradition and the availability of plain-base molds.

Is your bullet tapered or flat point? 

Do you breech seat?


Hi

I already had a 30 caliber tapered 185 grain mold from Hock molds which I had them make for Scheutzen.

My barrel is chambered for breech seating.

The bullet I'm using for the plinking mentioned in my original post is a 170 grain 30 caliber sold by Bear Creek Bullets.  It is actually designed for the 30-30.

They are swaged rather than cast and are moly coated.  I do breech seat these with a .050 card wad in the mouth of the case that touches the base of the bullet.

I weight the bullets to eliminate any that are light but don't sort into batches of the same weight.

At long range like this minor variations in bullet weights don't make much difference.

I see you live in the northwest, where?   I live in northwestern Montana in the Flathead Valley.

I hope to get to a match or two in Montana this coming year, the new chemotherapy is working to reverse the cancer and I am feeling stronger.



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