There’s nothing wrong with the 32-20 round. It’s a great cartridge and fun to shoot in it’s original loading with fixed ammo and a 115 grain bullet. But when your using hot loads with 200 grain bullets like the CPA 32-20 it gets tricky.

Jack Hughes 10 shot 200 yard 32-20 CPA target group that he shot and it is still one that has not yet been bettered to date.
There is an article in the ASSRA Journal that talks about it and not only is he Jan a very close friend he is also a member and shoots with our group at the Modesto Rifle Club. 

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JLouis wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 8:31pm:


I agree on your take on Rowlands group,shot in a cave over a few days. 

that group and score is amazing. what was the group size?
The 10 shot small group @ 200 in CBA is .720 I think also with breech seat rifle.
FYI- I accidentally deleted the prior post (trying to edit it)asking if it was a record target

I for one, would like to see the research someone has done that would indicate that Rowland's group was shot in a cave, or over a few days or somehow not legitimate. Regardless, it still stands as the record shot with black powder, albeit with a smokeless priming charge. There are also many other targets shot by Rowland that come very near the record target. This is not meant to take anything away from Jack Hugh's record target. Just tired of the doubters with no proof supporting their claims. This has all been hashed over, and over. Very explicit write-ups in the Boulder Daily Camera, outdoor life, in 1902 I believe, and I am sure others.

The target posted above by JLouis and the article in the Journal was my primary inspiration for choosing .32-20CPA as my cartridge of choice. I had my rifle built by CPA as a (near) clone of Jan's and used the loading information on the target as my starting point. Both Jan & JLouis have become my mentors and valued friends via this forum. I will be forever grateful to both of these fine gentlemen for their help and friendship over the years.

Anyone ever neck the 32-20 down to 30 to take advantage of the numerous bullet shapes and weights in that caliber?

Seems the C.W. Rowland target comes up on this forum from time-to-time. While there are varying opinions about under what circumstances it was fired, one thing in the historical records stands - there was a picture of that target published in the same year it was fired.  Below is the image that was published in Shooting and Fishing magazine in 1901. The hand written notes on the target were by Rowland (there are other Rowland targets still in existence and the handwriting matches with them).
The notes are a bit hard to read so here is what is written:

10 Consecutive shots 200yds -
Machine rest, Telescope sights -
No Wind
Sprinkling - 
Pope 32/40
Leopold Lubricant
Shot May 16 - 1901
by
C.W. Rowland, Boulder, Colo

There is no mention of a "cave" but it does state that it was "sprinkling" and that it was fired on "May 16 - 1901"

CW Rowland did what CW did with what he had at the time and no one is trying to take that away from.
The discussion was actually not about him and it is actually all about the 32-20.CPA and what has now been accomplished with it. 
This also has absolutely nothing to do with CW his name was only mentioned because someone had asked if Jack Hughes group was actually a record or not and the only comparison was to bring up CW's name.