The PJ CReedmoor bullet will almost certainly work well in that rifle if you haven't tried it yet.

I got a really nice deal on a used PJ Creedmoor once.  It shot quite well in the Shiloh .45-70 I tried it in.  I have excellent results with a 458535M1 Money bullet though, so I gave it to my shooting partner so he could have it as a backup in case something happened to the one he normally uses.

Chris.

Where is the Tucson range and whom would be the contact for information on BPCR?
Flatlander

About 2019 at our August long range match in Harris Minnesota, Jim Klusken (may he rest in peace) was there from Wisconsin. We had a practice day on Friday and Jim was really shooting well at a 1000 yds and right towards the end of his time at the target, he opened a box of bullets that he received from a good muzzleloader shooter from out east who asked him to try the bullets in his Hepburn. Jim was a paper patch shooter and all he had to do was to pull a bullet out of the case and stick one these bullets from the muzzleloader shooter into his case and shoot. The bullet was shaped a lot like the Lyman Whitworth bullet with a large meplat. There was about four of us hanging around watching Jim shoot and he said "how much do you think I need to come up to get these bullets on the target" and a shooting friend of mine said "go ahead and just try one and we'll see what happens". Jim shot two tens and an X with that bullet without changing his elevation. I know strange story but we were there and saw it happen and it all makes us wonder whether or not all the BS about bullet nose shape in cast lead bullets with black powder even makes a difference. Maybe we shoot something like the money bullet or Creedmoor bullet because it makes us feel good and gives us a confidence when we need to keep our shots on paper. Just a thought.

Jim was certainly one of the best folks around, and was an honored part of the "legends of Lodi"

I made my statement about the bullet nose shapes from my experience.When I load to go to a match I take the bullets that the rifle I'm taking shows the best groups from testing here on my home range. Some rifles show a preference for the money bullet and others may like the another. But it's always the bullet the rifle shows preference for. Unless I'm going to one of the gong matches knowing full well those aren't x ring accuracy required and a skip in counts the same as one that lands smack dabb center of the target, and then I may just take a batch of rounds to see what happens with this good ol bullet.

oneatatime wrote on Feb 15^th, 2023 at 2:49pm:


Yes, and other modern gun writers also did articles on various damage they intentionally did to bullet noses to see if it hurt accuracy. It didn't hurt accuracy enough to measure, but the modern writers never shot their test bullets further than 200 yds., so not sure about further distances.
I have Pope, Darr, and Saeco nose pour bullet molds and the larger molds cast great bullets with very consistent weights. The smaller caliber molds do also, but need to preheat the mold much longer before pouring the first bullets or they cast very poorly if not well heated.

Wad cutters swaged for 44 and 45 caliber rifles actually shoot surprisingly well to 200, after that it's a crap shoot.

Thanks much for contact info. Will be contacting shortly.
Flatlander