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frosty_bacon Participating Member Offline Posts: 31 Location: north of 49 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2015	Remington #2 38-40 Feb 4^th, 2023 at 4:13pm	Print Post
	I am looking at a Remington #2 that is chambered in 38-40. Can anyone tell me if smokeless loads would be safe to shoot in this rifle? From what I can remember 38-40 would be one of the larger cartridges chambered in the #2 action, but presumably those were black powder rounds. Is there enough barrel shank and will the action stand up to the breach thrust of mild smokeless loads? Many thanks, Frosty
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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #1 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 5:21pm	Print Post
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	WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. Let's Go Sonny!
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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	It should be fine with mild smokeless loads. #2s were made well into the smokeless era. From my research, it seems the WCF chamberings were most common in late production rifles. It is not a common chambering.


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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 267 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #3 - Feb 5^th, 2023 at 3:22am	Print Post
	Good luck on your search. Original centerfire #2s are quite uncommon. If Remington chambered that caliber it will be somewhat pricy as well. If you just want a #2 in that caliber to shoot, you will arrive at your destination much faster starting with a heavy barrel .32 rimfire. Have the barrel bored and rifled for the 38-40, then convert the breech block to centerfire. I would stick to the mild cowboy shoot loads.


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frosty_bacon Participating Member Offline Posts: 31 Location: north of 49 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2015	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #4 - Feb 5^th, 2023 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Thanks all for the replies. If they are that rare, I have a feeling the price may be higher than I am willing to pay. Never know, may be I'll get lucky.


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #5 - Feb 5^th, 2023 at 12:29pm	Print Post
	frosty_bacon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 12:16pm: Thanks all for the replies. If they are that rare, I have a feeling the price may be higher than I am willing to pay. Never know, may be I'll get lucky. If you pass on it, I'd appreciate hearing where it is. I may be interested. Thanks Steve


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ten-mile Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Chetek Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:35am	Print Post
	I have a #2 in 38-40 as well as two 1-1/2s in 38-40. They are marked "38W". Use the Alliant pressure tested loads using Reloader 7 and you won't have trouble. I have a pdf of the Alliant manual if you want a copy. I have a #2 in 38-40 Remington also but would have to go look at the barrel marking.


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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:54am	Print Post
	ten-mile wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 6:35am: I have a #2 in 38-40 as well as two 1-1/2s in 38-40. They are marked "38W". Use the Alliant pressure tested loads using Reloader 7 and you won't have trouble. I have a pdf of the Alliant manual if you want a copy. I have a #2 in 38-40 Remington also but would have to go look at the barrel marking. Jack - I have an Alliant manual, but it does not have rifle loads for the old cartridges like .38-40, .44-40. It just has cowboy revolver loads. Does yours have these? I will say that I use a lot of Reloader 7 in pistol size rifle cartridges with great success. .25 Stevens, .32 extra long, .32-20, .44-40 all shoot very well with it. A capacity load closely matches original black powder loads.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:17am	Print Post
	Steve, can you tell me your Reloader 7 rifle load for the 32-20? Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16305 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:22am	Print Post
	In the last decade the #2 Rolling Blocks have really gone a bit nuts price wise, and the only ones I see cheap are either well used up, or .32 RF versions. The .22RF and any CF versions are usually way more than I'd ever want to pay. I have one in .22 Long, and another in .32-20 that was described wrong and sold cheap at an auction, so I was able to get it.

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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #10 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:26am	Print Post
	bobw wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:17am: Steve, can you tell me your Reloader 7 rifle load for the 32-20? Bob 12.7gr of RL7 with the Lyman/Ideal 311008 bullet shoots better than my aging eyes can see.


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bobw Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1537 Location: NW, Iowa Joined: Mar 19^th, 2013	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #11 - Feb 7^th, 2023 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	Steve, that’s better than my eyes can do! Same mold I have and thanks for the info. Bob

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ten-mile Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Chetek Joined: Dec 8^th, 2007	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #12 - Feb 8^th, 2023 at 7:26am	Print Post
	Alliant Reloader Handbook RLR7 in 38-40.pdf Size: 631 KBDropbox Link: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) See if this works. I use RL7 exclusively in all my 38-40s. I have a 50yd wallet group that a friend watched me shoot through his spotting scope. It is only 3 shots. He asked me if I wanted one to hang on the wall or keep shooting. I looked through the scope and the target hangs on the wall. I did shoot several more groups that day and a couple of those hang nearby. My bullets are 40043 and 401258.
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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #13 - Feb 8^th, 2023 at 7:46am	Print Post
	ten-mile wrote on Feb 8^th, 2023 at 7:26am: Alliant Reloader Handbook RLR7 in 38-40.pdf Size: 631 KBDropbox Link: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) See if this works. I use RL7 exclusively in all my 38-40s. I have a 50yd wallet group that a friend watched me shoot through his spotting scope. It is only 3 shots. He asked me if I wanted one to hang on the wall or keep shooting. I looked through the scope and the target hangs on the wall. I did shoot several more groups that day and a couple of those hang nearby. My bullets are 40043 and 401258. Jack - got it, thanks! Steve


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RAM Participating Member Offline Posts: 34 Location: Henning, Minnesota Joined: Sep 27^th, 2020	Re: Remington #2 38-40 Reply #14 - Feb 8^th, 2023 at 6:11pm	Print Post
	I have a #2 that was a 32 RF and was in rough shape. I relined it and chambered in 32 H&R mag. Reworked the firing pin hole/breech face to CF. I load it lite though I am sure it would be fine with full loads. it shoots well and looks nice. Fun little rifle.


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