Cbashooter wrote on Dec 10
th, 2022 at 4:38am:
condorsc'
i thought you said the #5 had deeper chambers? you are describing setting the shoulder back for a shallower chamber. .
unless it's just I am misunderstanding?
my 7mm roller I made cases from 30-06 but the die was backed off due to longer headspace. The problem I also had was the neck diameter of the fired case could nearly take a .308 bullet! case necks don't last long with those chambers Expansion was about 25 thou' IIRC.I swear the neck also had a strange double shoulder.after firing. I gave up on loading for them.
George, to test whether my resized cases were filling the chamber, I backed the 7mm FL die off a quarter-turn and sized and trimmed to length several cases. They wouldn't chamber. Ran the die back in, resized, and they chambered. So I'm indeed filling the chamber. And NO powder gas or particles in the face and no bright ring on the case. And no pulling the barrel and machining it. I think we are comparing apples and oranges- after all, there are THREE sets of specs involved- the original German specs, whatever Remington used, and current SAAMI specs. I (very crudely) measured a 1913 DWM round, a 1935 FN round, and contemporary PPU, Hornady, and R-P rounds. I measured head to shoulder break and head to halfway down shoulder, the standard headspace measurement. The contemporary cases seemed to measure 2 to 3 thousands LONGER than the 1913 and 1935 cases. My resized cases were 2 thousands SHORTER than SAAMI specs. Major gun companies, including Remington, were notorious for varying specs back then. Was I shortening the cases? Well, my cases seem to measure 2 thousands less than the specs called for in MODERN RELOADING by LEE, but roughly the same as actual old rounds. Numerous writers I've seen quoted in ASSRA postings have specified pulling the barrel, setting it back a thread, and replacing in the receiver. Using the above method, anyone wishing to fire a #5 safely can do so without buying anything, even a form and trim die. Well, except for a small metal-cutting disc and mandrel from Lowe's to trim the cases. That's real scut work. What are your thoughts, George?
P.S. The necks on my resized cases are bulged or expanded too. As was a #4 .22 RB I had. The case mouths would split upon firing. The steel in some of these Remingtons was pretty poor, apparently. Perhaps that's what happened to your #5.