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Reply #15 - Nov 30th, 2022 at 5:28pm
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Found this in Waynes article
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 30th, 2022 at 6:05pm
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I was told by the guy I bought my Stevens-Pope Ballard from that the scope #625 was a first year scope. He collects and rebuilds all kinds of vintage external adjustment scopes, and seems pretty knowledgeable on them.

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Reply #17 - Nov 30th, 2022 at 7:29pm
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MrTipUp wrote on Nov 30th, 2022 at 2:44pm:
I have a Winchester A5 with Mann-Niedner mounts that came with a case like the one Kurt_701 shows except that it's flared only at the capped end.  Am I right in assuming those cases were not supplied by Winchester?

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Most of the cases I have seen were like yours. They are in my Winchester book & Brophy's Springfield book as Winchester commercial cases.
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I did find a reference to case like mine being a WWI case.???? I believe it was in Senich Sniper book as purchased by the USMC during WWI.
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Whether that is correct I am not sure.
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Reply #18 - Nov 30th, 2022 at 11:40pm
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I've bought and sold several Fecker scopes and currently own four, a 6X, 8X and two 10X.  All are mounted on BPCR big bore or .22LR rifles used for silhouette competition.  They are well made with excellent optics.  Since none are marked with the magnification (power) a new buyer has to typically rely on an educated guess by the seller.

There are a couple of relatively easy ways to measuring magnification.  Click on the link below and page down in my article to the section titled, Measuring Scope Magnification (Power) which follows a photo of a couple of Fecker scopes.

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Reply #19 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 12:45am
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Kurt_701, the A5 scope in the second picture of your second post is set up for Mann-Niedner mounts and has no "grasshopper" spring, just like mine, and the case is identical, too, except that mine has a leather strap.  So do I possibly have a WWI Marine sniper scope?

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Reply #20 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 7:16am
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The 8x Unertls used in sniping are marked USMC Sniper or USMC. The Lymans used in competition are marked USMC property or USMC. I have never seen a Winchester A5 marked with USMC. I guess it could be. ???? On the 1903 Springfield FB page, Andrew Stolinski, moderator might have some paper work. My scope does not have a serial number. I have seen pictures of case with notes in the cap referencing adjustments. It makes a nice story.
I served in Corps in Nam and I am a gun guy. A new guy at work (Southwestern Bell) asked me if I was really a sniper. He had been drinking in a bar with an older coworker. The coworker told him I was a sniper in Nam and not to mess with me. In reality I was a grunt radio operator working as a forward air controller.  "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” ( The man who shot Liberty Valance)
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Reply #21 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 10:59am
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Kurt, 
I have a similar round tube leather scope case that one of my Winchester A5's came in when I bought it, but mine doesn't have canvas straps. Mine are leather straps. 
I've seen the scope cases with one large end as you pictured above, and always thought my leather case was likely for some other brand scope, and just used for the A5 I got. No markings on it to indicate any maker, or scope.
  

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Reply #22 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 11:43am
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A fairly common accouterment in Europe in the past, when it was an accepted protocol to carry one's scope detached from the rifle, in a leather tube, to be attached if time and circumstances allowed for its use. I have a couple of them I picked up in a gunshop in Frankfurt and one of them is long enough to hold a Fecker Small Game scope or my Lyman 5A.
  
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Reply #23 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 3:12pm
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Thanks for reminding me. Seems like I had one of those European cases somewhere.
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 3:38pm
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For what it's worth, written with some kind of stylus on the leather strap of my case is "FOR POPE RIFLE"; and, sure enough, that's what the scope and case came with.

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Reply #25 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 4:16pm
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Can you guys tell me what rings the Feckers came with before he was making his own.
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Reply #26 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 4:38pm
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I believe Fecker used Winchester A5 scope rings. I think by the time Winchester sold their scope business to Lyman Fecker had designed his own rings, and didn't buy rings from Lyman.
  

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Re: Looking for Fecker info
Reply #27 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 5:06pm
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This is something I was reluctant to put out there. I could not find the source. I remember reading that Marine Corps Winchester A5 lettering was highlighted with red coloring and the commercial market A5 had white lettering. 
Looking for patent date for mounts. Oldest Fecker next Lyman last Unertl.This might be interesting. I am sure there more patents.
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I am not sure who used this one.
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Re: Looking for Fecker info
Reply #28 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 5:36pm
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Winchester scope case 1910 catalog not in 1909,
  

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Re: Looking for Fecker info
Reply #29 - Dec 1st, 2022 at 6:26pm
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So you won't find a  fecker with Lyman rings
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marlinguy wrote on Dec 1st, 2022 at 4:38pm:
I believe Fecker used Winchester A5 scope rings. I think by the time Winchester sold their scope business to Lyman Fecker had designed his own rings, and didn't buy rings from Lyman.

  
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