Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Normal Topic Scope Height (Read 1089 times)
RayH
Oldtimer
*****
Offline


ASSRA # 10880

Posts: 753
Location: Oldest City, FL
Joined: Jan 4th, 2012
Scope Height
Nov 13th, 2022 at 10:29am
Print Post  
I seem to recall some saying that a scope should be mounted as low to the barrel as possible/practical on a benchrest rifle. ? Pros - Cons, Whys - Wherefores ?
Thanks.
  

In GOD We Trust
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16157
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: Scope Height
Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 11:16am
Print Post  
RayH wrote on Nov 13th, 2022 at 10:29am:
I seem to recall some saying that a scope should be mounted as low to the barrel as possible/practical on a benchrest rifle. ? Pros - Cons, Whys - Wherefores ?
Thanks.


The closer the scope is to the rifle's bore, the less parallax effect. The point the crosshairs and the bullet's path intersect is less affected the closer the two parallel lines are to each other. So as you take shots further out it requires less elevation change.
« Last Edit: Nov 14th, 2022 at 11:04am by marlinguy »  

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
calledflyer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3572
Joined: Mar 9th, 2015
Re: Scope Height
Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 6:34pm
Print Post  
it also helps keep your cheek down on the stock.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
RayH
Oldtimer
*****
Offline


ASSRA # 10880

Posts: 753
Location: Oldest City, FL
Joined: Jan 4th, 2012
Re: Scope Height
Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 9:03pm
Print Post  
The fact predicating my post is that the comb of the stock is high and the scope is low. I feel the need to raise the scope to prevent excess cheek pressure on the stock ................
Existing scope mounting blocks are .25" H. and the objective lens is barely clear of the barrel. I'm considering going with .75" H. scope mounting blocks. The scope is a Redfield 3200  20X. The rifle is 22RF.
  

In GOD We Trust
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
joeb33050
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2613
Location: Marathon, FL
Joined: Apr 20th, 2004
Re: Scope Height
Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 6:52am
Print Post  
I don't think so. Parallax with a certain scope and setting and range is independent of scope height; or/and of whether the scope is mounted on a rifle or not. 
And elevation change is independent of scope height. 

Scope height is only about comfort, as long as there's no scope/gun interference. 


"The closer the scope is to the rifle's bore, the less parallax effect. The point the crosshairs and the bullet's path intersect is less affected the closer the two parallel lines are to each other. So as you take shots further out it requires less elevation change. "
Here's a good explanation:

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) [/quote]
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Premod70
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 864
Location: North Carolina
Joined: Jan 16th, 2016
Re: Scope Height
Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 8:46am
Print Post  
Scope height has nothing to do with parallax. Parallax is the ocular adjustment of the scope’s interior lens to center the crosshairs. The further the scope is from the bore center line the more the angle of deflection there is to adjust the scope, nothing more, nothing less. Unertl used to have a good explanation on their scope instructions about parallax, maybe someone as the instructions and can post a copy.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16157
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: Scope Height
Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 11:04am
Print Post  
My mistake. Parallax is the wrong terminology to describe the point where scope and bullet's path intersect. And I honestly don't recall the terminology for this intersection.
But the closer the scope is to the bore, the less change there is between that point where they intersect as you shots move before or after the point they intersect. 
So having the scope very high above the bore will mean the point the crosshairs and bullet's path intersect will be a steeper angle at a closer distance. As you move out further the angle between the bore and scope becomes less acute. So at very long distances the distance between bore and scope centerlines wont have as much affect on the angle they intersect at.
  

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
calledflyer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3572
Joined: Mar 9th, 2015
Re: Scope Height
Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 2:40pm
Print Post  
low mounting will make for a bit more 'point blank' distance in a hunting situation- because of the long, tapering path to intersection the range estimation becomes less critical.
in a target setting with known distance, the height is of far less importance if it is comfortable and readily adjustable. Battleships used  range finders that were on completley different parts of the ship than the gun turret, and they could shoot under minute of angle at several miles distance. While moving themselves.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16157
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: Scope Height
Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 3:06pm
Print Post  
Most target shooters who use scoped rifles for varying distances keep a cheat sheet taped to their stocks to indicate scope settings for various distances, so they know how many clicks equals a certain number of inches of elevation at each distance. The number of clicks per inch or foot changes as the intersecting point gets further out and angles decrease.
  

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Premod70
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 864
Location: North Carolina
Joined: Jan 16th, 2016
Re: Scope Height
Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 3:09pm
Print Post  
For me, the higher the scope is from the bore’s centerline the harder it is to steady the crosshairs on the point of aim and can cause one to waste time in ‘settling’ the target, so to speak.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint