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Nov 13th, 2022 at 10:29am
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I seem to recall some saying that a scope should be mounted as low to the barrel as possible/practical on a benchrest rifle. ? Pros - Cons, Whys - Wherefores ?
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Re: Scope Height
Reply #1 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 11:16am
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RayH wrote on Nov 13th, 2022 at 10:29am:
I seem to recall some saying that a scope should be mounted as low to the barrel as possible/practical on a benchrest rifle. ? Pros - Cons, Whys - Wherefores ?
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The closer the scope is to the rifle's bore, the less parallax effect. The point the crosshairs and the bullet's path intersect is less affected the closer the two parallel lines are to each other. So as you take shots further out it requires less elevation change.
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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 6:34pm
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it also helps keep your cheek down on the stock.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 13th, 2022 at 9:03pm
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The fact predicating my post is that the comb of the stock is high and the scope is low. I feel the need to raise the scope to prevent excess cheek pressure on the stock ................
Existing scope mounting blocks are .25" H. and the objective lens is barely clear of the barrel. I'm considering going with .75" H. scope mounting blocks. The scope is a Redfield 3200  20X. The rifle is 22RF.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 6:52am
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I don't think so. Parallax with a certain scope and setting and range is independent of scope height; or/and of whether the scope is mounted on a rifle or not. 
And elevation change is independent of scope height. 

Scope height is only about comfort, as long as there's no scope/gun interference. 


"The closer the scope is to the rifle's bore, the less parallax effect. The point the crosshairs and the bullet's path intersect is less affected the closer the two parallel lines are to each other. So as you take shots further out it requires less elevation change. "
Here's a good explanation:

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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 8:46am
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Scope height has nothing to do with parallax. Parallax is the ocular adjustment of the scope’s interior lens to center the crosshairs. The further the scope is from the bore center line the more the angle of deflection there is to adjust the scope, nothing more, nothing less. Unertl used to have a good explanation on their scope instructions about parallax, maybe someone as the instructions and can post a copy.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 11:04am
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My mistake. Parallax is the wrong terminology to describe the point where scope and bullet's path intersect. And I honestly don't recall the terminology for this intersection.
But the closer the scope is to the bore, the less change there is between that point where they intersect as you shots move before or after the point they intersect. 
So having the scope very high above the bore will mean the point the crosshairs and bullet's path intersect will be a steeper angle at a closer distance. As you move out further the angle between the bore and scope becomes less acute. So at very long distances the distance between bore and scope centerlines wont have as much affect on the angle they intersect at.
  

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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 2:40pm
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low mounting will make for a bit more 'point blank' distance in a hunting situation- because of the long, tapering path to intersection the range estimation becomes less critical.
in a target setting with known distance, the height is of far less importance if it is comfortable and readily adjustable. Battleships used  range finders that were on completley different parts of the ship than the gun turret, and they could shoot under minute of angle at several miles distance. While moving themselves.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 3:06pm
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Most target shooters who use scoped rifles for varying distances keep a cheat sheet taped to their stocks to indicate scope settings for various distances, so they know how many clicks equals a certain number of inches of elevation at each distance. The number of clicks per inch or foot changes as the intersecting point gets further out and angles decrease.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2022 at 3:09pm
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For me, the higher the scope is from the bore’s centerline the harder it is to steady the crosshairs on the point of aim and can cause one to waste time in ‘settling’ the target, so to speak.
  
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