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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 417 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Nov 7^th, 2022 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	I ruined my 32 CPA barrel by leaving some kind of bore cleaner in it over the last winter. The lands are pitted. Is it possible/feasible to either reline it or have it renewed to a larger caliber? It is currently .3205.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1755 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #1 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	I should think you could have it rebored to 33/47 or 35-40 beltfed/arnie


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1859 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #2 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	What bore cleaner?


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11474 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #3 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 6:25pm	Print Post
	Pentz wrote on Nov 7^th, 2022 at 5:04pm: I ruined my 32 CPA barrel by leaving some kind of bore cleaner in it over the last winter. The lands are pitted. Is it possible/feasible to either reline it or have it renewed to a larger caliber? It is currently .3205. How does it shoot? Still accurate? No? Yes, what bore cleaner?

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1938 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #4 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 6:55pm	Print Post
	I would also reach out to Shilen to see if they have had a similar problem reported to them. would be good to be able to identify the culprit. Some solvents come with instructions to not leave the solvent in the barrel for longer than a specified time. Contacting the folks at CPA would be next on my list. All parties would benefit from the information.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3897 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #5 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	Maybe Sweets?


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1938 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #6 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Any solvent, to my knowledge, that has ammonia in the formula, can harm the bore if left longer than 15 minutes max. Most I have seen, warn of this. A short whiff is all it takes to detect its presence.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2793 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #7 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	Like Wes Turner said: “shoot it”! I looked down the bore of my main bench rifle with a borescope and freaked out seeing all the pits and what looked like tears. It still shoots as well as ever. Now if it doesn’t shoot well, then rebore would be my first choice. Jack

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MAH Participating Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2018	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #8 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 9:36pm	Print Post
	What a shame! I lost two great shooting barrels doing the same thing. Both on new builds, to say my emotional state was and still not kind to the the solvent maker. No where did it state not to leave the solvent in for any period of time. Feel your pain! MAH


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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 417 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #9 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	I do not recall, but it was either shooters choice or an old batch of Hoppes that was being used up. Now i use a wet patch of Patch Out or Eds Red, followed by wiping dry and a final patch of Ballistol, in small amount.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11474 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #10 - Nov 7^th, 2022 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	MAH wrote on Nov 7^th, 2022 at 9:36pm: What a shame! I lost two great shooting barrels doing the same thing. Both on new builds, to say my emotional state was and still not kind to the the solvent maker. No where did it state not to leave the solvent in for any period of time. Feel your pain! MAH Wow, two barrels wiped out by bore solvent! Geesh! Would you mind telling us what brand it was so we don't do it also?

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burntwater Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 403 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #11 - Nov 8^th, 2022 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	As ‘ oneatatime ‘ mentioned Sweets could be the culprit. Sweets has a high concentration of full strength ammonia. Ammonia of this strength can be corrosive to several metals such as copper, brass and stainless alloys. Usually stainless stress corrosion is connected to ammonia so just maybe barrels could fall into this category. Either way strong ammonia can cause problems. I’m not talking about household strength ammonia. Anybody who has used Sweets with bronze bore brushes must know that they dissolve and get smaller in diameter with this solvent. The bright blue color means it’s eating and breaking down copper jacket gilding and your brush. As I recall Shooters Choice also contains quite a bit of ammonia. Rick


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 816 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #12 - Nov 8^th, 2022 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	Sweets is the #1 culprit for SS damage although the label plainly states max minutes it should be left. That said, it’s also probably the best copper eater out there. #2 culprit is likely mixing different solvent in bore.

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Mal Full Member Offline Posts: 221 Location: Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA Joined: Dec 5^th, 2012	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #13 - Nov 9^th, 2022 at 6:53am	Print Post
	Once I have cleaned out all the copper with Sweets as per the instructions,and a tight patch is clean,I always wet patch with Shellite just to be sure, sweets oil to finish. Mal in au.


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dave j Participating Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Jul 28^th, 2022	Re: Bad Shilen barrel refurb? Reply #14 - Nov 10^th, 2022 at 9:51am	Print Post
	too bad about the barrel I use Sweets but I know what it can do. Early on I had the experience of leaving a pistol cleaning brush covered with Sweets on a bench, went to put it away and found it discolored and deteriorating. Still recommend the stuff but cautious.


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