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32 Miller Case Forming
Sep 26th, 2022 at 5:22am
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When making cases for the .32 MS, is it best to used .357 Magnum, or .357 Maximum cases?  I've seen both, or can you use either? Thanks.
  
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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2022 at 8:02am
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I have used both plus Dan Wesson .360, but I would stick to either the max or DW360. The heavier web is better in most brass. Starline makes both.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2022 at 2:53pm
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I have some available made with .357 brass. Annealed, fire formed, and FL sized.
  
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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 10:27am
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Charlie Dell developed his 32/357 approximately concurrently with the 32 Miller (Short) and both of them were based on the 357 length donor case.  Miller also developed a longer case based on the 357 Maximum, hence the distinction of this cartridge getting the “short” distinction. 

The difference between Miller’s and Dell’s design was that the former had a short necked section while the latter was a just a straight taper from base to mouth.  It is possible to chamber and fire a Dell case in a Miller chamber, but not vice versa.

Anyway, I form my Dell cases from virgin Starline brass by pushing a lightly lubed case about halfway into the form die (using an arbor press) then taking it out, re-lubricating the case, and pushing it all the way in.  Trying to form cases in a single pass left me with lube dents and larger creases. Generally speaking I get several firings before I have to resize my cases.  I have never lost a case due to hardening leading to splitting, and I have never annealed a case, not even for the initial forming. 

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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 7:45pm
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I anneal the cases and use Imperial lube and the size like butter.
  
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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2022 at 8:38pm
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One pass?  Undecided
  
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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 10:49am
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Only lost one case over the decades and that was to a primer pocket giving out
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Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2022 at 12:56pm
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When Dean made the first cases for me to go with my rifle, he used the RWS 5.6x52R(?) case.  It is  basically the 222 Remington Magnum Rimmed.  The Europeans liked the RWS brass quality.  So did Dean.  He just trimmed it to length, FL sized it, and trimmed again.  I probably fired those cases 50 to sixty times and never lost one.  Gaylord Smith bought the rifle from me, and never said he lost one either.

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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2022 at 11:10am
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Rich,

Charlie used and liked those same 5.6X52R cases and when I got my Peregrine bench gun from him, I sized a starter lot of 50 using his tooling and cases he provided. I discovered I could get equal results using the Starline 357 brass without trimming and for a lot less $$$.  I still have 40 or so of the RWS cases in rotation, but keep them separate when shooting.

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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #9 - Oct 3rd, 2022 at 11:35am
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Please enlighten me on these short Dell/Miller 32s. What diameter bullet do they shoot and what kinds of loads are used in them? Are they high pressure loads or more like a 32-20 with a larger case capacity and a much heavier bullet?
  
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Re: 32 Miller Case Forming
Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2022 at 1:19pm
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My wife’s Miller came from Adiline Hamilton with 300 5,62x50r cases. She is is still shooting them. They have probably been shot several hundred time in there life. The rifle was chambered for that case rim which is smaller then 357 case rims. I turned 100 357 rims to fit but have yet to need them. That said PTG offers the 32MS reamer I believe for both rim sizes so check the parent case listed if you order a reamer to match what you want.
  
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