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Protecting Cleaning Rod
Sep 5th, 2022 at 9:33pm
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You know the old adage about the only stupid questions being …. Well here goes. I want to clean my brand new CPA .22 rimfire and am looking at the clearance between the extractor and chamber.  It looks as if the rod isn’t “perfectly “ centered you would either scratch a stainless steel rod or tear the covering on a coated rod.  Are there any tips on preventing this from happening?  Have any of you used a pull through like a Patchworm (essentially a piece of weed wacker plastic cord with a caliber sized button)?  Thanks, Tom
  
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Re: Protecting Cleaning Rod
Reply #1 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 10:07pm
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Using a pull-through unaided on ANY bore is near-certain destruction of its accuracy. A stainless rod is considered by many to be the BEST rod for prized bores. The Brits in WWI in addition to a pull-through issued a device that clamped on the muzzle of a SMLE and protected the precious last few inches of the bore. Look around on the net. They're about $50, but well-made and essential to protect the bore. You'll have to enlarge the part that clamps, as the Enfield's muzzle is much slimmer than most BPCRs. Actually, a scratched stainless rod is no problem, little threat to a fine bore.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 11:22pm
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I use Tipton carbon fiber rods except when using copper remover, then I go to the stainless. I wipe the rod with a cloth after every pass.
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Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 1:39am
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If I am not mistaken, CPA makes a hammer that is designed to allow clearance, but it may be an extra cost. If your hammer does not clear, you could talk to them about getting the one that does clear. Probably the simplest solution.
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 2:55am
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Never a damn pull-through. They have a habit of sticking, especially in smaller bores. Getting them out is a problem, last time involved a lot a Break-Free, several hours and a few cuss words.

I use a coated rod, nylon brushes, Ed's Red for .22 LR and cast. For jacketed, Butch's Bore Shine.

I use a bore guide for centerfire, even for a single shot. They look funny, but work well.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:26am
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I have used the same pull through I got with my Anschutz .22 25 plus years ago.
it it nothing but a coiling nylon wrapped deal with a loop for patches. The patches provided look like old mop strands. I've not had any accuracy issues or chamber or crown damage. And I clean my 22 rifles once a year if they  need it or not!

I've used self made ones on match airguns s well for longer than i can recall .these just pull patches nothing more.

I see no issue with thus type of pull through.
Anschutz still sells them so I guess they don't either.
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Reply #6 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 9:36am
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I have a lathe and one of my uses for it is to make end cap bore guides for my .22 bores. (Not looking for business, I have enough on my plate!) My theory is that it's nigh impossible (or at least very difficult) to make a traditional bore guide that works via the breech end, so I make a close tolerance one to fit a muzzle and clean from that end - when I actually clean a .22 bore, the frequency of which as we know can vary wildly depending on lots of factors.

The thought of a rod, coated or steel, rubbing the chamber/throat of a match grade .22 barrel gives me the willies.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 10:59am
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I use a .17 caliber stainless cleaning rod for my .22 rifles. Being a little smaller diameter makes less chance of contact between the rod and the bore, and it's worked well for my rifles.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 11:05am
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I use a stainless .20 caliber rod and jag and run it through a drilled out .22 case to center the rod in the bore.

You can get an adapter from the 5-40 (?) thread on the end of the .20 cal rod to 8-32 if you want to use a .22 cal brush.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 12:23pm
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I personally wont ever use a brush of any kind on my .22 bores. Some solvent and a patch does it well, and is less abrasive to my bores.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 2:41pm
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I use Delrin (plastic) rods on my Hiwalls. Drill and tap it myself for brushes or loops.  Soft enough that I can't imagine it ever marking or de-grading steel in any way, quite flexible too to get past iron sights. I buy it in bulk from a plastics supplier.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 6:32pm
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I quit using wire brushes after one visit to a gun smith named Richard(Dick) Hart in Boise, about forty years ago.  He took a new copper wire brush and drug it across the outside of a polished piece of stainless barre.  He then handed it to me in one hand, and a 10X magnifying glass in the other.
The nylon ones these days are so much softer.  Some people do not think it affects accuracy, but my last RKS gain twist barrel was four months and five-hundred dollars; and did not include the fit, or chambering, or head spacing or bluing.

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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2022 at 7:01pm
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Yes Gnoahhh making one for the breach end is a chore,I virtually had to replicate the bolt profile for my Walther KK200, but it does work a treat. Cheers Mal in au.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 10th, 2022 at 6:15am
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My two Douglas barreled CPA .22 barrels either one in service over 20 years, don’t need much cleaning. Light spray with Balistiol let it sit then pull through with a single oiled .22 patch followed by another clean patch  . Pull through home made,  loop tied in 50# monofilament leader material. It’s stiff enough to push end through from the breech so it can be pulled out the muzzle. Anschutz Walther & all the top Air Rifle makers supply pull through with the new gun.

Use the same routine with a stainless rod. Rod can contact the extractor but it’s only making a couple of passes, keep it away with my thumb. Pull through or rod depends on cleaning at the range or home. Barrel on the gun or off when it’s switched to CF

I never scrub “good” 22 barrels with a brush. Old and rough yes, new Button Rifled Douglas does not need it. 
As mentioned above Delrin rod good solution, that’s how I wipe my CF barrels. .22 Delrin needs to be so small I prefer the stainless rod.

My guess since non corrosive ammo came out more barrels ruined by over aggressive cleaning than lack of cleaning.

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Reply #14 - Sep 10th, 2022 at 8:39am
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Dr.J...Been there done that...first time thru on a Ballard .22, brand new Dewey rod was peeled by that knife edged extractor.  In bench lathe, I chucked up some fired .22 L.R. cases & drilled out head.  A little more effort when cleaning, but no more peeled rods.
  
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