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32 Miller long
Aug 22nd, 2022 at 11:52pm
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i am looking for info on the 32 Miller long??  it is a 357 Maximum case necked to 32 cal. anyone have experience with this one? is it different from the 32 RKS?   Thanks   dave
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2022 at 10:25am
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The original Miller case was a 357 Max case tapered to 32. 
The Miller short case was made by taking the .32 Miller case shortening it to Mag length and retapering the case to .32. Thats why the Miller short case is a double taper.

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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2022 at 2:40pm
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The RKS is 1.470 in length in between the 32-357 and the Miller Short. somewhere have a pic,I'll look for it.....I really like the RKS with Lil Gun at around 10.5 gr......
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2022 at 4:37am
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Info on reamer and dies for the .32 long and/or .32 RKS. Thanks
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #4 - Aug 31st, 2022 at 5:38am
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I designed the Short version with Dean and Cyle.  I just suggested he shorten his case 1/4".  And he did.

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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #5 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 6:03am
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Will .32 MS dies made by CH4D suffice?  Best brand of reamer to be used?  Thanks.
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #6 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 7:16am
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I have two barrels for my Miller chambered in .32-357. My case is 1.590 in length. I find it easier to tune than the Miller Short. Shoots very well with 11.5 grns. 4100. Breech seated 210 grn. bullet.
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #7 - Sep 5th, 2022 at 11:29am
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Am having my old 32-357 reamer reground with .450 straight neck then taper to rim. Set up for breech seat. My last reamer  almost same .250 neck for fixed but the throat was almost half inch. Since i have a throater I can go in and take out what is needed . Shooting a 185 gr. Hudson bullet.I can get both base bands in neck,being a slight bore rider can push bullet in  . designed first reamer for black powder use also,but my mistake sending dummy case with a 200 gr fixed bullet,that 1/2 " throat made it right at a 32-40.
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2022 at 12:25am
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Interesting that you found better accuracy with the longer case.  That is entirely contrary to the record amassed by the Miller Short, which has won about 90% of the matches it has been entered.  It has been so successful that the ASSRA basically legislated it out of competition.  They call it the Open Class, iirc; but in reality it is to allow shooters not using the Short case to compete.  I wonder what they think about the 32-20 (really a 32-30).
However, never say never.  Guys still win matches every now and then with the 32-40, and a few with the 38-55.

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Reply #9 - Sep 30th, 2022 at 1:48pm
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    I wasn't aware of the ASSRA legislating any cartridge out of competition.  Perhaps you could enlighten me in greater detail.  I'd like to learn rather than remain ignorant. 
  
  It was my impression there wasn't any class other than open; except for a few specialty matches with their own rules held once a year on a specific rely chosen at random. 
  
   The match reports seem to show that some shooters do indicate they were using 'traditional' equipment;  but they are competing within the same matches at the same event as someone using entirely modern equipment.  

  While the rules have a section addressing 'traditional' equipment; there do not appear to be 'traditional' matches limited to that application. The language used seems to have been lifted in it's entirety from another association; perhaps the WSU or ISSA. 




  I apologize if I'm completely wrong.

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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #10 - Sep 30th, 2022 at 4:12pm
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  Yes, in ASSRA competition the "traditional rifles" compete right along with the rest and are awarded medals in that class.
  In reality, the "Miller Short" is pretty much a "has been".
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #11 - Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:02pm
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Got to love those old has been that still shoot well
  
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Re: 32 Miller long
Reply #12 - Sep 30th, 2022 at 10:19pm
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bnice wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 9:02pm:
Got to love those old has been that still shoot well

I agree with bnice. I may be a heretic, but I think the cartridge is only one factor in a good shooting rifle. The chamber, the leade, the barrel (with a slight taper), the two-piece stock fit to the rifle are also attributes. 

The "Traditional" and "Modern" cases only launch the bullet. 

Note: Many years ago, a shooter showed up having forgotten his bullets. I gave him my "practice" bullets that I happened to have in my box and he won the match with these "practice" bullets.
  
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