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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Darr Ballard Aug 7^th, 2022 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	I won this Darr Ballard in an auction recently, 32-40 Ballard. It looks like the lever is chrome plated. I wonder if anyone here is familiar with this rifle, "157/8.11.75/.32-40/1:16" under forearm. So presumably job 157 The SN# dates the action to 1890, might be one of the last ones made
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Statesrights Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 340 Location: Virginia Joined: May 3^rd, 2016	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #1 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 3:40pm	Print Post
	You outbid me and I think I dropped out too early. Hope you find it interesting.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #2 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	Rifle is number 157 built and Barry son David has all of the build information book. The year and for who it was built for and the twist is very obvious. The groove diameter should be around 320.5 and the correct bullet length for it would be 3 times the groove diameter if that might also be helpful to you. David was shooting with his Dad at the San Diego Schuetzen group and maybe one of those folks can contact David and to get that information for you?.

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #3 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 4:37pm	Print Post
	Congrats!


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #4 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	You outbid me and I think I dropped out too early. Hope you find it interesting. I put that bid in weeks ago, I was actually hoping to get outbid because I purchased a number of rifles recently. One more bid and it would have been yours, sold for my max. Looks like I'll be eating those Chinese noodles for a while. Aaron Bite'n Dawg
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #5 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	A Google search shows David Darr lives just North of San Diego in Oceanside, Ca. Sure it's the correct David Darr since it shows his father as Barry Darr. Didn't see a phone number, or other info beyond address. I've recently discovered one of my Ballards has a Darr barrel also, and might see if I can get ahold of him to see if there's a record of it. Mine was done in April of 1974, and also a .32-40, but done by reboring and rifling a Winchester barrel. I discovered test targets in some paperwork with the gun that appear to be Barry Darr's load testing on 4 targets with 4227. Targets read, "Ballard-Winchester-Darr barrel".

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #6 - Aug 7^th, 2022 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	please let me know how you make out, Vall. Aaron Bite'n Dawg

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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #7 - Aug 8^th, 2022 at 12:24am	Print Post
	Rebel, nothing wrong with a six-month diet of PBJ* for a good rifle. Rich PBJ = peanut butter and jelly sandwich


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 710 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #8 - Aug 10^th, 2022 at 1:08am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Aug 7^th, 2022 at 4:20pm: David was shooting with his Dad at the San Diego Schuetzen group and maybe one of those folks can contact David and to get that information for you?. Here's the email I have for him: ddarr1497@yahoo.com It's been several years since he came down to shoot with us, so I'm not certain that the address is still valid. So, YMMV


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RDBallard Junior Member Offline Posts: 74 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2020	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #9 - Aug 12^th, 2022 at 10:11pm	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on Aug 7^th, 2022 at 12:12pm: I won this Darr Ballard in an auction recently, 32-40 Ballard. It looks like the lever is chrome plated. I wonder if anyone here is familiar with this rifle, "157/8.11.75/.32-40/1:16" under forearm. So presumably job 157 The SN# dates the action to 1890, might be one of the last ones made Who has the records to date a Ballard by serial Number?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #10 - Aug 15^th, 2022 at 10:06am	Print Post
	RDBallard wrote on Aug 12^th, 2022 at 10:11pm: Rebel wrote on Aug 7^th, 2022 at 12:12pm: I won this Darr Ballard in an auction recently, 32-40 Ballard. It looks like the lever is chrome plated. I wonder if anyone here is familiar with this rifle, "157/8.11.75/.32-40/1:16" under forearm. So presumably job 157 The SN# dates the action to 1890, might be one of the last ones made Who has the records to date a Ballard by serial Number? There never were any records kept by Marlin for Ballard rifles. Since Marlin did not own the Ballard patent, and only built Ballard rifles for SD&G, they never saw any reason to keep records. I always thought they might have felt it was SD&G's task to record the info, not theirs. There are ways to get close to deciphering when a particular Ballard was built based on serial numbers, name stamped on the left receiver side, and features. (If it's in original configuration) Early gun pre 1881 will have the JM Marlin stamp, and later guns will have the Marlin Firearms Co. stamp. Different levers and hammers for various time periods, plus some buttplate changes.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Darr Ballard Reply #11 - Aug 15^th, 2022 at 10:09am	Print Post
	It appears the email for David Darr might not work. Sent off an email to it last week, but no response. It didn't bounce back, just no reply, so he's either not answering, or doesn't use it anymore.

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