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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	High Wall Question Jul 28^th, 2022 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	My original high wall has a trap in the butt plate and I'm wondering just how common that is. Madis doesn't really say anything about trap butt plates for the high wall other than that they were available in all models. Anybody have any idea? George


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 594 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: High Wall Question Reply #1 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 7:05am	Print Post
	I have never seen a Winchester single-shot rifle with a trap door buttplate but that doesn't mean it never happened. Winchester used a buttplate with a trap on their Model 1873 lever action rifle. Your rifle could have been a special order item -or- this same shape buttplate was added to your rifle by a skilled stockmaker. Please post a photo if you are able. Joe


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1691 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: High Wall Question Reply #2 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 7:31am	Print Post
	I've seen two. One was a 30-40 Krag and can't remember the other. Check with the Winchester Collectors Association.


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: High Wall Question Reply #3 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 11:37am	Print Post
	This High Wall is a 32-40 with a #3 half round/octagonal barrel, 27.75" long. I suspect the barrel has been shortened either from 28 or 30 inches. By the serial number it was made in 1889. Here are a few of pictures. George


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2845 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: High Wall Question Reply #4 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 12:56pm	Print Post
	My GUESS is that it came off an 1873. There were a few around, probably in someone's parts bin. Maybe it was easier to shoot than the factory rifle buttplate. I have a couple of original High Walls that I shoot a bit. I've replaced their original buttstocks with buttstocks from Winder muskets. When I'm gone, someone will be left wondering.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: High Wall Question Reply #5 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	Is the buttplate serial numbered? If so, does it match the rets of your rifle? Bill Lawrence


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: High Wall Question Reply #6 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	There is no serial number on the butt plate. It is the earlier style with the longer tang. That is to be expected since the change to a shorter tang took place around 1900 and this rifle was made in 1889. Looking at the wood work under the butt plate, this looks like factory work. Probably the only way to know for sure would eb to geta factory letter. A letter may, or may not, address the butt plate. George


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Spud Oldtimer Offline Posts: 504 Location: Australia Oz Joined: Feb 24^th, 2005	Re: High Wall Question Reply #7 - Jul 29^th, 2022 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	Probably a silly question, but is there a corresponding hole in the stock adjacent to the trap to accommodate cleaning rods etc.? I think Winchester used a standard size for this hole and that might give you a clue if this was done by the factory. Bert Hartman over at the WACA site would probably be able to give you a answer as to it being original or not. Either way that's a nice HW. Spud


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: High Wall Question Reply #8 - Jul 30^th, 2022 at 9:23am	Print Post
	Yup, there is the hole for the rod and cut outs for the spring I door. That is what I was refering to when I mentioned the "woodwork" under the butt plate looking like factory work. Definately not done with a hammer and chistle. George


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1019 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: High Wall Question Reply #9 - Jul 30^th, 2022 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	I have a Highwall Winder Musket with a trap butt plate.

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