What's the difference between a 40-65 Remington and a 40-65 Winchester?

There's .40-65 Ballard Everlasting, .40-65 Sharps Straight & .40-65 Winchester, but no .40-65 Remington.  The confusion may be due to the many .40-65 Remington rolling block rifles that fire the .40-65 Win.

Wayne

I have a Hepburn that was originally 40-50 straight and marked 
40. 1 7/8 in front of the forearm then in very tiny letters stamped 
40-65. I assumed it was rechambered to 40-70 straight at some time.
When I got it it had been bored out to 45-70 and not wanting another 45-70 I had John Taylor reline it back to the original 40-50 straight.
It is a fairly light rifle and much more fun in 40-50 than 45-70.

Steve.   

xtimberman wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 6:28pm:


I've often wondered if Remington used something akin to Ballard's Everlasting cases at one time? Their version of the .40-50SS was originally listed as .40-45 Rem. and was the same external dimensions as the .40-50SS. 
Then there's the question of who came out with these similar cases first? If it was Remington first, and Sharps just stuffed 5 more grains in and put their name on the heavier load, it would be pretty common practice in one upmanship.

And, don't forget the 40-60 Marlin, which is exactly same case as the 40-65 Win, just different bullet weight.
I had my hands on a 40-60 Marlin Model 1881. Should have bought it, complete with Marlin loading tool,etc.
beltfed/arnie

Marlinguy,
I had a 1881 , caliber 45 Govt for a number of years. 
I had bought it from Willie Johnson,  a boyhood neighbor of my father, As a kid, when spending haying time helping my cousins on my Grandfather's homestead in northern WI, I saw that rifle standing in Willie's kitchen when we visited him to help castrate a hog.   
What I really wanted to buy from Willie was his Win 1895 cal 405Win. But he would not sell it as he still hunted with it.
Anyways, Willie sold me his father, Chris Johnson's 1881 
45 Govt. It was the rifle that Chris bought new and used it mostly to shoot bears when they came near the yard under apple trees.
But, since i still have my Win '86 45-70, I finally sold it to a collector.
As to the M95-405, it "disappeared" from the farmhouse when Willie had to go to Madison for cancer treatment and passed away
"OK, so just another story....." 
beltfed/arnie